yeah cus vp is being idiots and not buying blade mail on legion or basher on anyone. If you bash troll he's dead, if you duel him into blade mail he's dead.
This game's on ramzes and noone honestly. They should have done much better but they fucked up, every single fight.
and even though they had like a 20-5 kill lead lc had like 30 duel dmg at that time so he's not snowballing at all
"3k knowledge bombs PogChamp"
tell me why blade mail doesn't counter troll. Sure he has lifesteal but he deals so much dmg compared to that. And abyssal would go through his bkb, let it wear off so od can drop the hammer.
Because they have fucking grave. Every single time. Troll just won't die during duel, best they can hope is to disable him.
OD not going for sheep ruined it imo
And obv alche build was sub optimal.
it's a lil bit sad how people just call it GG as soon as they see early stomp, without doing any real analysis
OG seriously had a better lategame, idk how people can be blind like that
if VP couldn't finish this by 30 they can't finish this at all.
VP throwed, that's all. (get it?, cuz they're russian)
They shouldn't have lossed.
would've been interesting to see a oct manta radiance alch and see how split push changes that game a lot. Not like OG didn't have heroes to deal with it but once they started winning fights they got objectives every time and vp couldn't push without taking those fights. Stuck in their base at the end there the whole time.
Blade mail would definitely be great, problem was just how poor the legion was all the time (she didn't have as great start as od, ench and alch). She really needed a bkb against timber and cent, and also save for buybacks. They should probably have let her farm a little more between fights so she could have all her core times (blink, blade mail, bkb) seen as she only gained 3 lasthits from minute 20 to minute 30. But with her lack of farm she had to cut the blade mail in favour of bkb.
Selling the solar crest over armlet before troll was building mkb was also questionable, seen as how great evasion is against troll. Plus extra minus armour on alchy is always great.
Congrats to OG though. Still was a very exciting final.
Can you idiots stop talking about LC BM? Srsly look at the god damn screen people posted (note troll buffs). LC needed BKB asap, the moment LC duelled was the moment notail would jump him and kill him. WIthout BKB he would only feed even more duels to troll.
Not buying sheepstick on OD and alchebuild was game losing LC's itembuild was fine.
bfly is useless, they had magic nukes and troll had mkb. They needed the splitpushing build on alche or at the very least abyssal blade.
troll didnt have mkb until really late. if instead of AC alch had a butterfly, it is very likely the fight at raidiant ancients (which was the turning point of hte game) wouldnt have gone OG's way. ez bashes.
I have to admit I was doing something irl and started watching it live like 20 mins in when score was like 3-18 or something. But LC had no duel dmg and ended game with 46. LC was basically a creep with one disable late game. Look at those pushes into their base, LC couldn't do shit and had to ghost and duel just not to die. I'm not blaming one person, maybe the duels just didn't come with the flow of the game, or maybe dazzle saved all his duel targets from dying during duel and they died after, but that little duel dmg on LC means he got shut down hard and it was like 4v5 late game.
If you want to look at a singular play it was probably ramzes getting caught out by the radiant ancients near the end. He panic popped bkb, which the announcers said was a mistake cus OD couldnt' save him with astral, but idk, if he doesn't' bkb there timber might just blow him up as well. I don't think it goes great either way and he was way out of position and got caught.
Then if you watch some of OD's ults in those last few team fights they are bad. He ults a lot when troll still has bkb up and isn't focusing OD so he has time to get it off, and then a lot of ults just whiffed and only hit 1-2 people when they needed a lot more out of it.
And draft, like I said I missed the first ~20 mins so maybe enchantress got them those early kills, it looked like she shut down mid lane hard with OD, but enchantress just kind of sucks especially without drow aura which is usually the only time she is picked.
Fly on dazzle played so well so OG had a lot to do with it. You can say VP threw and they kind of did but OG is really good too.
I actually think they threw the first game more by whiffing on some major RP's and then not killing egg a couple times when they could have.
the way the game went, LC for some reason doesnt have a good duel target, and if he doesnt lock troll down before OD can do shit, the fights over. prior to the turn around od was fucking shit up and that was the right idea to win fights.
3k talking like he is better than the whole VP players holy shit, why would he buy blade mail lmfao, troll can just kill him in an instant since troll was more tanky than the LC, thats why LC bought ghost scepter to duel Troll and let OD + Enchantress hit troll from behind while LC's ghost scepter is still active.
i mean it's pretty fucking hard to get duel damage against dazzle Treant so it's not his fault necessarily.
Shiva's instead of Hex on OD lost them the game
Maybe they shouldnt have drafted lc vs a tree then, and then og follows up with dazzle, guess just a good outdraft by og.
Pros dont draft LC to get duel damage they draft her for the purge, aoe nuke and bkb piercing lockdown.
For that game and in that role, legion did her job
Ghost, duel, take troll out of fight for 5 seconds.
Would be interesting to see a greed build on Alch to synth LC an Ags that way she couldnt even get bursted by nOtail every time she did the duel/lockdown
Fucking fucks. Trading solar crest for MKB was the worst decision ever made. He lost 25% evasion and 12 armor. I don't know what he expected, but doing any damage with that BKB was unimaginable.
i hate when lowbies only can think of what ''different'' items they could've taken
these guys are paid hundreds of thousands to play this game, you'd think they wouldn't know something as simple as itemization, you master this shit at fucking 4k.
itemization is like 5% of the win/loss
even if you were right, which i'd disagree that you'd have better itemization than a 9k, you'd change very little
dude comon it's what fans do. I don't understand the elitism in esports and on you suck so how dare you comment on pro matches. You'd never see this in soccer or basketball, fans comment all the time on dumb turnovers and you don't bitch them for being armatures or not even playing anymore.
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Congratz VP