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General Discussionis drow ranger any good?

is drow ranger any good? in General Discussion
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    i don't see many (not to say any) games on her, even tho visage and windrunner are meta heroes, and i find it quite easy to win games on her, she's pretty good overall in my very humble legend 2 opinion (3600 btw fu valve gimme ancient already)

    any thoughts on her? i feel like she's more reliable than luna in all aspects, she can farm just as fast as she can (at least i consider myself a pretty reasonable drow ranger player and i farm pretty well in a good game)

    Shou

      U must be garbo at farming if u think drow farms the same as Luna
      Luna is far more stable in the laning stage
      Drow is basically only in cheese strats, and she isn't anywhere near consistent enough to be a reliable
      If anything Luna is far more reliable than drow, she can comeback from a bad lane, or completely take over from a won lane. Meanwhile drow has a super high peak in very specific strats, but can't be picked unless she hits that optimal pick.

      Lex

        I play Gyro a lot altough its not very good right now. I just like the hero. If you like drow - play it.

        Drow is imo a worse version of Luna. Luna has more ms,farms faster, has magic nukes that can interrupt tp. And drow is much easier to gank, while you have to think twice if u gonna gank luna with her ult ready.

        The only good thing about drow is her auro with range strats.

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          drow can just silence-tp whenever ganked;
          drow can farm just as well as luna: <https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3924182654>
          her only hard counters are lycan and PL

          IXXI

            wrong. luna will outfarm drow any day. you must be a shit luna

            Mode : TOPSON

              wrong am will outfarm luna and drow any day 1!1!1
              ah classic argument

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              Jacked

                She can farm fast with aghs mjol

                RedSkipper

                  laning is ultra important and she can be easily out harrassed by the dual lanes you see in every game. luna has better dual lane and trilane potential due to having a small stun and aura. i do think she should be more popular than she is but cest la vie.

                  Shou

                    bro idk if ur high but there is no universe where an average drow game has a higher gpm than an average luna game
                    and if u go to above average lunas at farming, they should have massively more gpm than a drow
                    not a single tool in drows kit makes her a flash farmer, but glaives makes luna able to reach huge gpm numbers

                    Jack__Attack

                      My avg drow gpm is 600ish my average Luna gpm is 700-800 (both of these are winning)

                      Melt

                        to me it feels like drow has way too many hard-ish counters. i mean, even blink dagger is a counter to her if she used W

                        imo drow is more of a position 2, sometimes even 3 safelane hero and should to be played with carry mid and off.

                        Talker

                          Drow cant match luna farm. If you check average numbers, Luna has 560GPM, while Drow has 470GPM.

                          The difference is scaling - while Luna needs MoM to farm 5stack or tripple stack of ancients, drow needs for it aghs or one minute. So Luna will be farming much faster early and they have the same farm speed late, when Drow is already 10k behind.

                          Drow is in my mind position 3 in need to have position 1 protection. She is there for aura, for silence and slow, not that much for damage output. Matching her with wind is bad idea as well, as Wind is slow farmer, who needs items to scale. I had several games with Wind ending up 20:10:10 or something with drow (amazing early/mid game), but couldnt finish the game, as the rest of the team was in bad shape due to Drow couldnt carry the game.

                          I would say Drow is only possible with very strong, greedy mid - Medusa, Gyro. Maybe Lina, SF,AW, AW. Maybe some Luna, if the matchup is decent. And as well some tanky offlaner with big stun. But usually there is another ranged carry - Wind, Weaver, even Mirana etc.

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                          Jacked

                            Drow can match Luna farm. You guys have just been playing the hero wrong all this time

                            Kotato

                              what if you pick drow and luna :D instead of deciding for only one of them

                              HaylingZar

                                I think she is kinda good. She has 57% winrate in Divine bracket. However, this only tells part of the story. Divine players only pick her when she is not going to be countered hard or fits into the draft well.

                                i have 5 reports to use

                                  Only if she goes aghs she might have a chance to outfarm

                                  Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                    Luna all the way, a pro player drow can outfatm a luna. But we are pub players so we cant outfarm a good luna player

                                    unbreakable spirit

                                      Put a Slark and a pudge in the same team against drow, and she won't be able to push any lane, just saying

                                      Shou

                                        a pro player drow cant outfarm a pro player luna
                                        idk wtf u guys r on
                                        even if u go aghs on drow, thats 4k gold before u can even start flash farming, luna only needs a MoM, and lunas laning stage is way better than drows imo, meaning she can get her initial MoM gold faster.
                                        its not even a contest.

                                        Suck my tiny curry dick

                                          a pro player Luna cant outfarm a pro player Drow
                                          idk wtf u guys r on
                                          even if u go aghs on Luna, thats 4k gold before u can even start flash farming, Drow only needs a MoM, and Drows laning stage is way better than Lunas imo, meaning she can get her initial MoM gold faster.
                                          its not even a contest.

                                          bearcat0611

                                            drow has this problem where if you can get on top of her she's useless. This is what makes drow bad otherwise the hero is decent. So if theres a game where the enemy team will have trouble getting on top of you drow is a good pick. Unfortunately this is like zero games so she's almost never good.

                                            kuci

                                              Why you try outfarm a luna when the point of drow strat is to push hard and fast

                                              r2d2

                                                drow supp orb walk harrass and aura cheese? Krappa

                                                Gssaikone

                                                  i'd like to see your drow clear a ancient stack at level 10. luna will easily shit on it. i dont know what games you play but... if drow can farm as fast as luna in your games, you must be a really shit luna player lol.

                                                  IXXI

                                                    @ayaya ayaya are you just retarded or do you have comprehension issues?