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General DiscussionSirActionSlack's guide to raising mmr (aka getting out of "shit" tier)

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Hopeless

    This shit is pure gold.

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    Wink

      Love him

      Hopeless

        i'm gonna bump this shit out of this. Too many people on dotabuff need this.

        Jay Ashborne

          This image is bad.

          Hopeless

            ^
            wut?

            sleave

              well some good advices there mainly on Dark Seer, its a very good pick on pubs because you can farm ez, you are strong in all stages of the game, you have a wombo yolo combo, you are tanky, you are slippery fuck i love that hero (i suck on it tho)

              Jay Ashborne

                I said my user image was bad. That video is hilarious as fuck though.

                ♨Dacheat♨

                  That was fucking amazing.

                  Vaikiss`742.

                    verified pick omni win doto

                    Pilot

                      Pure pure gold

                      Orin

                        Basically, let your idiot teammates die in the early game but keep them alive in the late game.

                        Hopeless

                          depends on idiot level

                          60fps+

                            I didn't like it sorry...

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                            Jorges Sanz

                              LOL has to be stickied

                              SMIMUEL HYDENKO

                                Hilariously true

                                Hopeless

                                  not sure what you didn't like about it mr. ravasaki, but your 4i8% winrate makes me question your judgement on the matter.

                                  FlipFlop

                                    cant buffer,

                                    any tldr ? :(

                                    ♨Dacheat♨

                                      Step one: Cut a hole in the box.

                                      Two: Put your dick in that box.

                                      Three: Get her to open the box.

                                      Four: It's your dick in a box.

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                                      1. Everyone else is retarded.
                                      2. Luckily, this means that the other team is retarded too.
                                      3. Game will go 45+ minutes no matter what.
                                      4. Pick a lategame support that can keep your teammates alive (Omni).
                                      5. Find one guy on your team that kinda knows what he's doing and make sure he does well.

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                                      FlipFlop

                                        ^
                                        and by using omni did he doing well raising his mmr?

                                        ♨Dacheat♨

                                          Yes he says he went up like 1k at the beginning of the video.

                                          FlipFlop

                                            ^
                                            do you know his dotabuff?

                                            gonna downdload few video of him

                                            sleave

                                              he went from 2800 to 3700 or something like that by playing omni/dark seer every game
                                              and maybe pugna dont remember

                                              but basically you have to go for that late game supports who can be useful in teamfights instead of CM-like hero who cant keep mates alive and has a single target disable

                                              regulator

                                                "game will go 45+ minutes no matter what"

                                                this is true and i fucking hate it, a lot of times my team gets a really big lead and they just afk farm/dive and throw, then we end up playing a 60 min game that should have ended at 20

                                                60fps+

                                                  @Concede
                                                  I didn't like the presentation of it and he was talking too fast for me to grasp the meaning of his words, after all English is not everyone's native language in here. He knows how to play omni and he is a good player i guess. Where is Lightknight to tell us his opinion about him? ;D

                                                  And something irrelevant. Fucking latest update as of now cost me a secured win. Did this happen to anyone else maybe or was it only me?

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                                                  sleave

                                                    this video is fucking funny i think i watched it like 3 times already

                                                    ♨Dacheat♨

                                                      I am the captain of the S.S. Dumbfuck.

                                                      Yoshi

                                                        the guy is so much fun :)

                                                        Phenomenal

                                                          "The most important advice i can give you is: DONT HELP THE IDIOTS. LET THEM DIE."

                                                          ROFL :D One of the best and funniest videos i've seen in a while. And true as fuck.

                                                          Hopeless

                                                            "IS XBOCT ON YOUR TEAM? YOU PLAYING WITH FUCKING PUPPY?"

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                                                            Hopeless

                                                              btw flop, you are way to high in mmr for this to apply to you. It is still hilarious though.

                                                              Phenomenal

                                                                Trench is strong in every bracket. Even Arteezy gets morrons on his team who have no clue what they're doing.

                                                                Sexy Vicious

                                                                  I shall begin omniknight training

                                                                  #12

                                                                    ^^hael?

                                                                    Phenomenal

                                                                      "he went from 2800 to 3700 or something like that by playing omni/dark seer every game"

                                                                      That's not true, his mmr is barely 3.2k. Just went to watch a game and i have to say that he's a really bad player. Yes, he tries to help his carries farm and try to save them, buy wards etc, but his game motorics, positioning, usage of spells, last hitting, etc are reallly bad, even for this mmr.

                                                                      Still, he's a very funny guy and i like his videos a lot :)

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                                                                      Hopeless

                                                                        um no...

                                                                        as of yesterday he was 3900. Where are you even getting this from Hurricane...

                                                                        btw. "motorics" isn't the correct* word. It is called mechanics.

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                                                                        Trodlabundin

                                                                          this video so cute. watched it like 7 times today.

                                                                          edit: motorics, motorics actually)

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                                                                          Phenomenal

                                                                            I watched one of his latest videos on youtube as he was playing Witch doctor (making stupid voices) and he was 3.2k mmr (it's visible at the end of the game). Game was played 18 days ago.

                                                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/662310651

                                                                            I also watched replay of one of his todays games as he was playing Omniknight, and with exception of some moments by SF and LC, no one else should be even close to 3.9k mmr in skill. Cmon, did u even see how Sven and Omni played vs solo Mirana, missed TONS of cs and let her dominate that lane. Thats not how cca 4k people play. Also positioning and spell usage is far from skill required to play in this bracket. It's more like low 3k.

                                                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/696787170

                                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                                              It's funny but most of my games don't go that long anymore. They used to, every fucking game, but last couple patches they seem to go faster. I think people are picking more snowball heroes vs traditional farmers.

                                                                              Hopeless

                                                                                push meta?

                                                                                Hopeless

                                                                                  @ hurricane.

                                                                                  Are you serious? you have his dota buff. You found a game from 18 days ago when he was 3.2k.

                                                                                  Go add +25 for every win and -25 for every loss on his ranked history up until 2 days ago. He is around 3700-3900.

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                                                                                  Numberwang

                                                                                    He's in very high skill bracket, so >3.8K confirmed

                                                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                                                      Looking over my last page of matches, only 5 went longer than 40 minutes, and one of those barely did, it was 40:13. Here's breakdown of my last 20 matches by times:

                                                                                      0-30 minutes: 5
                                                                                      30-40 minutes: 10
                                                                                      40 + minutes: 5
                                                                                      Average match time: 37 minutes

                                                                                      That's why I think this doesn't *really* apply in the new meta in the 3k's, maybe in 2k it does, I don't know. But there is a huge difference between a game deciding team fight at 30 mins and one at 45, which is where big fights will be in a ~40 min game vs a ~50 min game. Look at the top win rates patch 6.81 and it seems to support early and mid game heroes being strong. Necro, abadon, omni, wk, lich, zeus, venge, wd, cent, brew. All of those guys make significent impact mid game, while a few are also strong late, like necro and omni and wk, they aren't really stronger late than mid game like a hard carry is, they just don't drop off. But they are also beasts mid game, give wk a armlet, treads and bkb at ~20 minutes and he is a beast.

                                                                                      Plus it's also quite rare that my games have 4 hard carries any more. Usually it's a ton of mid game carries and a couple hard supports, like bloodseeker, invoker, maybe a lion or wd.

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                                                                                      sleave

                                                                                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/698573996

                                                                                        this game right here is the pure exemplification of the video
                                                                                        we were getting so pwned early game, it was something like 20-9

                                                                                        and we won late game
                                                                                        gg

                                                                                        nlnj_a

                                                                                          Lol, love it!

                                                                                          mwsqz

                                                                                            fuckin hilarious D

                                                                                            Phenomenal

                                                                                              Yeah, he actually climbed to around 3.8k mmr (i went to calculate difference in wins vs loses *25 mmr per match). Still, that Omni game i watched was far from 3.8k in skill, it was a lot closer to 3k straight.

                                                                                              Randall

                                                                                                this is all around moronic advice, even borderline bad, that will even make it worse for you if you are trying to clim higher than 3600-700 mmr,it's still funny but I can't see anyone who is already at that range benefiting from it.

                                                                                                Fakovnik

                                                                                                  True story

                                                                                                  von

                                                                                                    "you need to let him die" (void picture with x_x) Fucking lost it rofl