General DiscussionFuck blademail. (on lc)

I don't know about tou, but I never looked at lc as damage dealer, she is a lockdown against key pickoffs. Being able to disable an enemy and take him down

So I generally prefer a more pressure oriented build on her, so blademail imo is a must, alongside with blink and when rich, shadow blade and bkb

AC imo is good, not for being damage dealer but as an aura holder, it gives her very nice armor and she loves being in teamfights to get duel off, makes her good aura carrier after what I consider cores on her

But I don't think she is a good dpser, she can't kite, she isn't reliable, and she doesn't have farming steroids, as well as she doesn't scale too much (yea yea "infinite scaling"), late game she can threat towers after getting nice amount of duel victories, but she is not a good damage dealer

no reason for a blademail when the one strong enemy doesnt care about reflected dmg
will probably still buy in in 90% of my games, just in those 2 games it was not a good choice

mkb rush is the most dps u will get from an item build

Blademail is pretty much core. You don't go damage like deso. Stuff that tanks you up is alright (armlet bkb aghs). But don't think you get AC till after your cores items. Blink blademail shadowblade

wait, now YOU are telling me to build the same old cookie cutter build every game every situation? that escalated quickly

no reason for a blademail when there is no dmg to return
oh and i almost never buy shadowblade on legion. i probably would if i bought treads, but with the phaseboots its not needed

I also prefer phase, but I really like sb

And no I am not someone who builds sb on everything and think that invis is broken, infact if someone buys invis against me I'll make sure that his ass would be dusted every time he shows his face

But I do think that sb is a really good pressure item, the fact that you may be behind someone invisible at any moment is forcing tons of pressure from the enemies, and allows you to lead ganks. Not a core item but after you got your necessary items (like blink, blademail, etc'), yes I think that's a great luxury on her

Also items like helbard, ac, hood, crest, nullifier, and even abyssal and mkb can be great depending on the game

But again, I don't like lc built as a dpser, she provides tons of utility, but she isn't a reliable right clicker

my usual build is blink blademail halbert aghs bkb.
yes, i even stack aghs and bkb in the same game sometimes. just to make sure you dont die right after the duel and either kill another enemy or get out.
the lack of a reason to buy blademail recently made me think. that item wouldnt have changed anything in those 2 games.

I really dislike aghs, it makes your enemy 100 damage resistant to outside sources, so you can't ambush with the team anymore, it makes you pretty much play solo, and as I said lc is a great utility provider, so that's imo a big waste

Well it could be because I'm not an LC player. I've not developed much variation in the build.

I think that if you can get a couple of early duels and are ahead you can skip blademail. or if your opponents just don't have any rightclick damage. To note I do prefer a more carry oriented playstyle.

theres rarely a hero in my legion games that i cant kill late without my team helping me.

the aghs makes it so that i take one hero, usually the initiator or a backliner, out of the fight. only a very few heroes can interrupt aghs duel, and even if, they cant use their bkb piercing spell on my carry or mid. i will ofc not duel a troll warlord or a spectre who is 5k net ahead of me when i have an aghs, thats just a bad idea.

@howtonoob6 show me the account where you play legion please

I am not playing lc, but I do know how she plaus and have played with lc in my team

That's my only account

well according to this... please go check my profile if you didnt do that yet

i might just be on a trip and experience legion like 1-2k players do when they jungle and buy sb before boots, snowballing af because nobody buys sentries. anyway i feel like i can solo carry any game playing tresdin right now. and being able to skip the blademail accelerates that

Kudos to playing lc the right way. She is definitely a strong 3 that can transit to a high damage dealer later into the game. And by that I meant structure damage as she can be really disgustingly stacked in damage.

I too, agree Blademail to be more situational as a core item but that depends on how I plan to play in that game. If I need to initiate and jump first then perhaps Blademail into BKB will work but if I'm playing a little greedier and more opportunistic I find Armlet Halberd into AC pretty viable. I'm a fan of Aghs on her tbh, especially if I know I can win anyone in a duel but vulnerable to enemy spells, but skipping BKB cuz of Aghs is not an excuse.

LC is very similar to Pudge I feel, being opportunistic in positioning and all about taking one enemy out of the fight. All the hate is coming from people who do not play her properly. And never underestimate her PTA which applies a strong dispel which makes her a very strong utility too.

i am so tired of LC's players who think that their job is to collect damage, just like paranoid maniacs... in 4 out of 5 cases her job is to lockdown and to initiate, also bring her utility skills with, like dispell. Collecting damage is a way to disaster most of the time.

duel dmg is not what i aim for, but the result of any advantage i had and any good play i made in the game. why not make use of it by building up attackspeed and stacking some negative armor vs tanks like dusa and timbersaw in games where nobody in your team can deal with them

^in vhs games that applies to safelane LC mostly aas he can and has to play this role

rofl you normal skills players are something else

wtf is the point of picking lc against heroes that u dont want to abuse blademail against

the other thing blademail does is make the allies of the person ur dueling hesistate to kill u and turn on u.

its this simple lads more damage = more fun

In a lot of pro games LC is drafted as a potential damage dealer anyways. She's never counted on, but if she can get tons of duel damage, then she's often pretty much pos 1 at that point, and pros play around her like that. You don't plan this (unless you're rtz or some shit), you just play regularly and hope you're successful.

BTW AC first is generally pretty stupid. If you need armor + attack speed + damage, getting a much earlier armlet is way better in basically every case. Nobody rushes a 5.5k gold item like that. You can get AC afterwards, ofc, and blademail is not core on this hero, even though it's one of the two heroes it's best on.

BM sucks against if the enemy line-up doesn't care about reflected damage. Armlet and Desolator can replace BM fully in these cases. However, I think the main problem with LC isn't which item who builds, but the poor mentality of players who always activate BM, use Press the Attack, hit out of Shadow Blade if they have one, toggle Armlet AND use Overwhelming Odds despite LC still winning the duel if she just press R and click on the enemy. LC with 100 Duel Damage at level 15, wielding Blademail and Desolator against Shadow Shaman at level 11 with Eul. Do you really need to use every trick possible to win this duel, other than just blink in and duel him?

At low-level skills, these pro wanabe kills themselves by doing so, costing precious mana and allowing the enemy more window to escape.

Anyway, the fact you won means you played correctly.

ac first item i stopped reading. no point