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General DiscussionDBR account option: "Enable public DBR listing"

DBR account option: "Enable public DBR listing" in General Discussion
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    Despite the apparent popularity of a public rating system, it has only so far been implemented as private. With Valve deciding to give people the option of disabling 3rd party data for their account, why not give Dotabuff users the choice to publicly display their rating?

    Tharuler

      We don't plan on adding such an option, sorry.

      Sheriff

        I thought that's what the DBR was for? To see the DBR of pro peeps and compare with urs and others.

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          Well it appears that was the intention, but people in the community complained and valve lashed back. To summarise what's happened- valve throwing dota2 like they threw tf2, community demonstrating 'this is why we can't have nice things' and dotabuff having their hands tied.

          ANeMiA GRaViS

            Why you have to compare to pro peeps ? I think it is enough you can see yours ... and you can see if you are improving .... ? And Tharuler .... can you plz answer me on my topic https://dotabuff.com/topics/2013-01-25-dotabuff ? And btw .... if someone creates acc now .... he will soon get his DBR rating if he makes his match history public ?

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            redsleeves

              the top 50 ratings are public...

              Infinity XXV

                I don't see the necessity. You can compare yourself with friends by asking them. You don't need to compare with random opponents on matchmaking because the system already ensures a fair match.

                HellYes

                  fair match ... right

                  Sinbios

                    What the hell? Didn't an overwhelming majority of voters vote for public DBR? What was the point of a poll if you're just going to ignore the wishes of the majority? Was this just a sad attempt at appeasing Valve? Well too late, they've already gone ahead with the 3rd party data access change, so might as well make it public like everyone wanted.

                    Powaqqatsi

                      You realize if you force this to be public for everyone, players would just start disabling public stats for their account (on the Steam side), and then dotabuff will lose the ability to do full analysis and calculate things like your overall rating percentile.

                      I'd be all for each user optionally showing a public rating (and I'd make my own rating public), but I think forcing everyone is a really bad idea.

                      All that "all public" ratings really allows is for players to look up their team in game and start blaming each other before play even begins, or for players who are mad at someone else to look up the other persons rating and try to troll them with it. Neither use case is anything valuable.

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                      SirKLARC

                        @Sinbios:
                        25K users is hardly the majority of the DOTA community....

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                          It doesn't matter anyway, because valve fucking with the API and giving people the option to not submit stats at all instead of submitting their match history and stats with an anonymous ID that isn't tied to their steam account essentially renders the entire purpose of such a statistical site useless. 'Crippled' is hardly the word for the fate of db, because it doesn't express the severity. Valve are proving they're worse than S2, and that's saying something.

                          Crystalfilm

                            ^i hope you are kidding, of course majority wanted public rating

                            Sinbios

                              @Bronze noob:
                              It's a statistically significant sample, of which a majority wanted public ratings. Your argument is like saying "the number of voters in the US is less than 50% so the majority of people didn't vote for Obama, let's go with Romney instead."

                              LoKeN

                                i dont care about public stats just think its awsome to be able to see somewhat skill on myself (1703)^^

                                Shampoo My Ass Hair

                                  Leave it as is. Valve's option isn't live yet. If Dotabuff keeps it private, Valve could possibly scrap the option or modify it(not uncommon of them) since the thought of it being public is the part that spooked them. This is a good choice by the DB guys. If Valve activates the filter, then we can talk about it.

                                  Zagdil

                                    They were also critizising the Dotabuff Plus thing. And DB still launched it even if they cant guarantee to keep the service up in the future.

                                    Sacred Relics

                                      The Dotabuff goal is to earn money from their work, if you pay, you can see others DBR.. check Elobuff.com , same company, different game, this was their goal from 1st minute they start workin on stat.dota2.be , becoming dotabuff.com.
                                      I appreciate my own stats and your work, and you deserve money 4 this site, but DBR was an unfair move

                                      Camcorder

                                        Hi @Scared?

                                        Nobody but you can see your DBR. It is not a Plus feature to be able to see the DBR of anyone else. I hope that clears things up.

                                        Thanks!

                                        daggius

                                          Pls make DBR double plus where you can see their DBR. ill pay

                                          Camcorder

                                            Sorry, that won't happen ;)

                                            Cookie

                                              Wont happen because dotabuff wants you to pay to see other players DBR.

                                              ANeMiA GRaViS

                                                Are you mentaly chalenged ? Read Jason post ..... you will never be able to see other players DBR ... even if you pay .... what is wrong with you !!!!!!

                                                Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                  so how to enable this feature? on game UI?

                                                  kaki

                                                    I thought the point of DBR was to make it so that you can assess anyone's skill level relative to their ranking, force accountability in your claimed skill level, and promote a more competitive atmosphere... Right now it's just win % and latest matches. I still don't see what's so anti-christ about public rankings, seems like the ones with bad rankings just want to keep it private; trolls will always find an excuse to blame other players or call them bad with or without DBR. Though it's already decided and I guess there's no use arguing now...

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                                                      Old man, you could just ask raven to screenshot how bad he is as an alternative. Its a shame it has to come to this though.

                                                      ANeMiA GRaViS

                                                        I am not against public DBR ... but when i see that the 1st player is a guy who played 650 games ... and picked wisp 580 times ... then i rly dont care xd ...