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General DiscussionWhat determines Win /Loss?

What determines Win /Loss? in General Discussion
World Emperor

    Haters gonna hate :) Keep calm and play your invoker grim.

    World Emperor

      Btw ppl are kinda off topic a lil bit i think :|

      crying

        http://dotabuff.com/matches/196772762

        Nice game, we could easily win with such picks but np retard weaver mid, retard cent top.

        Picks matter so much.

        Slammer

          http://dotabuff.com/matches/195372264 yawn
          http://dotabuff.com/matches/196836164 yawn, bought wards etc cause rubick wouldn't etc...

          Don't see why I play anymore when my contribution does nothing to the games outcome... Dota 2 is a luck based game, luck as in who you get on your team and that's all there is to it.

          rizzler

            helo every1

            voker kda actually does have meaning because in pubs ur going mid and if ur going mid ur dunking on noobs

            and if ur dunking on noobs ur getting kills and not feeding

            as for grimorum
            grim is very good at using his spells at fights and chaining his abilities off in teamfights
            his laning is only average but his gamesense (with invoker anwyays) is quite good

            for casual - u r bronze but its ok

            ❤ Ashley ❤

              ^

              you should see my invoker

              rizzler

                also i don't think picks matter so much as everyone thinks

                there are certain situations where ur fucked from a hero composition standpoint, but u can always outskill people especially in a matchmaking pool

                in order of importance i think
                stacking is the highest determining factor towards whether u win or lose
                skill comes second
                then hero comp comes third

                rizzler

                  pls don't talk about me to valkiss again relentless i have 10% higher wr than him on harder server there's no need hes a bronze scrub n he knows it

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                  Vaikiss`742.

                    harder server :D everyone knows americans r trashes in dota take liquid for example they can only win vs european teams when playing on us servers with 200 ping advantage

                    oh wow u got 10% higher winrate while stacking 99% of the time ur so mad skilled even tho i bet i wouldnt even need to try to rape u in lane (ye challenge bitch if only got ballz ofc)

                    pls try harder

                    Weeb

                      Europe players "might" be better than US players, but, US players r MUCH MUCH more friendly

                      PS. I am a Europe player..

                      Like look at Vaikiss, he is one of the most arrogant players in the world, I don't mind that, because he deserves some respect as he was on top 30 players when DBR was there, and he almost never had a 5 man stack, sometimes with a 2 man stack not anymore

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                      _mein

                        It's definitely the lanes imo. Last two games I lost, the first I laned with an Alch who died pretty quickly and decided to leave me, and then proceeded to die 15 more times, and then I was apparently solo'ing the safe lane with absolutely no help from the jungling Furion and the mid Viper who never ganked any lane despite barking orders to everyone.

                        Still in the normal bracket for people wondering, but it's expected, if anyone is soloing a lane, to at least get back up every now and then from a jungler and/or a gank from mid.

                        rizzler
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                          Swiftending

                            ''Europe players "might" be better than US players, but, US players r MUCH MUCH more friendly''

                            What's this guy talking about? Have you ever played a IXDL game or a US server pub? It's a completely different mentality lol, most euros don't talk a lot and mind their own game (or it's a russian who knows no english) while US players like all chatting and shit.

                            Also I don't think EUW is harder than USE, there's not many stacks in top MM while in USE you're most likely to run into some of those 60-70% win rate stacks instead of like a 3 man stack + 2 solos like on EU

                            6_din_49

                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/196749932

                              Trax on lane with viper isn't that bad, as long as only one of them is last hitting, and the other focus on harassing :)

                              Vaikiss`742.

                                maybe cuz only "european" country that uses english language as native is United Kingdom while others has their own languages and if u would start using any other language than english or broken english with funny accent u would get called faggot/russian and would get reported for communication abuse ?

                                @mapzor i rather play alone than with fucking monkeys who can't use skills intime or buy fucking wards when needed

                                @murs that delete post il take as u being little bitch being scared of game against me

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                                Zenoth

                                  actually kda doesn't have that much bearing on the win rate, sometimes it depends more on individual playstyle - i have shit kda on all my 60-70% win rate heroes.

                                  bum farto

                                    I love how a simple interest in peoples opinion turns into a flaming cesspool of verbal diarrhea with everyone rubbing their own e-penis.

                                    @OP while I disagree with the many harsh and judgmental and self-loving posts from murs I do agree with him on his standing of how most games are won.

                                    1. Stack with friends, you will have better communication and practice with hero comps depending on who you stack with and how frequent.

                                    2. Hero skill means a lot and playing Invoker for 80% of your games means you are bound to be quite good with him as we would hope playing him as much as you do. So skill would come next.

                                    3. Your picks kind of tie in with the top two e.g. if you stack with friends you do have your favorite picks that you play well together, your favorite picks might also be among your most played which means you are bound to have much higher chance of winning.

                                    The winning formula here is stacking with friends you know and play with frequently while all playing heroes you know and play together with your stack.

                                    Example of what not to do....don't play like me, I lose a lot of my games because I queue with people I like but are not necessarily the best that is why I have a lot of shit stats. For me though the fun of the game is more important than the stats or e-penis standing you get from those stats.

                                    Fire_Sign

                                      @Zenoth It make sense. U are just noob, that why u have bad KDA. there is no other reason.

                                      crying

                                        Zenoth, and thats a logic. As you may be not very good, mm sends better players in your team -> you win.

                                        Handle it.

                                        rizzler

                                          k lets go

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                                            murs <3

                                            Ash

                                              Casual, if you're the same 'Casual' that frequents the aussie DiH in houses, I wouldn't call those in house games balanced at all. For starters, I play in them & I'm a shit cunt, & there are plenty of other shit cunts there too. Not exactly balanced for the good player.

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                                              Bot Tyrone

                                                ^The occasional game can be shit, no doubt I've been in a few of those. There are still lots of decent players in there though, once you play for a bit and know who the decent guys are, you know when the IH match is worth joining.

                                                CC

                                                  No stack is better than Schrann stack, deal with it

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                                                  tyga

                                                    omggg aesthetic man is the best player in the world !!!!!!11111111

                                                    rizzler

                                                      west euro very easy server

                                                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/198501967

                                                      Swiftending

                                                        Congrats on ur glorious win murs, I wish I could do that

                                                        tyga

                                                          nice slark first item skadi

                                                          CC

                                                            Troll, DR, LS, Gyro, more OP heroes plz, and Alliance r a bunch of noobs

                                                            tyga

                                                              u jelly mapzor?

                                                              Zenoth

                                                                @ReflectionS and @lie to me --> KDA doesn't have as much a bearing on win rate as you would like to think. My stats speak for itself. I average 550-600 GPM on nearly all my carries, with a consistent 700 for alchemist. It makes more of a difference than playing defensively and having lesser deaths. Even if my KDA is lower my average kills and assists are considerably higher. It's far overrated.

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                                                                Pandamonium(You Died)

                                                                  Drow Range SO OP
                                                                  SO
                                                                  OP
                                                                  SO
                                                                  kill yourself

                                                                  Pandamonium(You Died)

                                                                    I also agree with Zenoth, KDA does not impact winrate a lot.
                                                                    Unless you go 10-15 KDA every game, but then you are obviously one of hte best players in dota.

                                                                    BenaoLifedancer

                                                                      murs is a fucking racist bad CM picker and a fucking noob
                                                                      u tell him vaikiss
                                                                      doesnt even know they got the delay advantage
                                                                      racist motherfucking even sucks!

                                                                      why didnt i bother with ixdl?
                                                                      dont got time for shit like that
                                                                      takes 1 hour to find a fucking game

                                                                      Relentless

                                                                        You know Benao brings up an important point...he has is backwards however.

                                                                        Murs beat Alliance when THEY had the ping advantage. That's even more impressive. Liquid seems to have trouble doing that. They should have Murs standin for them more often.

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                                                                          what a player murs