General Discussiondota 2 computer

I could prob run dota 2 on my phone.........In reality you can buy a much cheaper computer if you only want it for dota 2. Now if you want the bells and whistles go for it but if it really is only for dota you are going overboard

Hey N1TRO,

You are bottlenecking that system quite bad with some of the components you are using.

>A GT630 will only be marginally better than some onboard cards you get on boards today
>I would try and get more than a 400w PSU
>The site seems kinda pricy, do you shop US as I could find something for you.

Consider this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1094429

...you can probably buy another drive and such but even at stock that PC above is great.

You are pairing a overzealous processor and memory with a subpar graphics card, check out new egg. If you have Symbol or Reaper online later get them to call us both and we can talk it through.

thanks dude will do!

My notes on your build:

o You don't need a video card if you have Intel HD 4000+ (which comes with some i5's and all newer i7's). I have only an i7 (no video card) and I play Dota2 on highest settings all the time.
o You don't need a cooler if you get an i7, it comes with one. Not sure if the i5 comes with one, but I assume so.
o You will want more than 400w, especially if you may consider adding more drives (ssd, bluray, more storage, etc) later on.

Heres a configuration that matches everything you put, for a bit cheaper than what you listed:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/lancer611/saved/2VCm

Of course this requires knowledge of putting all of the parts together, as they come in the mail separately. You only need basic electronics skills, as well as knowing how to install an operating system (I would suggest Ubuntu if you don't already have a license for Windows 7).

Dunno if the link will work or if I have missed anything but consider the following.....

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/28jrx

>no need for an i7, what does it actually do that an i5 cannot?
>put the saved $100 towards a half decent graphics card
>its personally is up to you but I wouldn't go on a HD4000

If you are building a computer for gaming the one thing you should be buying is a decent graphics card.

You're welcome to add me, i can give you alot more support than the most people here.

for dota 2 you dont really need a GPU ^^

Yeah, Dota2 doesn't require any heavy graphics processing. Like I said, my i7 has Intel HD 4000 and it runs Dota2 on high just fine, and the OP specifically said that he ONLY plays Dota2. If he decides he wants to play games that requires better graphics processing, he can always add a video card down the line. Thats the beauty of building a pc.

As for what I get from an i7 over an i5, I like to have a lot of stuff open at a time. Chrome tabs, Dota2, programming environments, streaming music, + w/e docs I need at the time. An i5 isn't quite as good at maintaining so many different processes, as it has half the cores. If Dota2 truly is all the computer will be used for, then an i5 (with Intel HD 4000+) is plenty sufficient.

N1tro, my advice would be to Ignore lancew, he's being constructive, but he obviously hasn't played on a PC with a better graphics card, and is possibly playing at a lower resolution/detail level.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-6.html

Just look at this link, and since then, then demands of dota 2 have gone up. For high detail gaming, on a 1080p screen (pretty much standard now) you can't use integrated graphics, or a GT 630. Ideally, you want to be running most games at 60FPS to get the fluid gaming feel.

Next, if you look at that link as well, the game isn't really limited by the CPU all that much. As you are new to this, I would assume you're not going to be overclocking your PC (plus haswell CPU's which are the 4000 series as notorious overheaters), so you can save some money by getting the non K version of the processor and well as the non z version motherboard.

You would be much better off with a slightly cheaper CPU and a better graphics card. Obviously, if you can afford to, you could stick with the same CPU/Mobo combo, but I'm trying to give you the best bang for buck for the same or lesser money.

Radeon R7 260X would be my suggestion, new technology, lower wattage requirements.
i5 4570 (note the 4570 is a non K version so isn't overclockable)
mobo - up to you, but if you;re not overclocking you don't need a Z version, so the H version will be fine.

@ Blunt @ Fnatic

But is it any good?

you need no more than 300$ for a good dota 2 pc, adding SSD and a fancy processor you can reach around 500$. the video card isn't much of a hustle for dota.

go get a 7750 / 7770 / 7790 . only $80 after rebate.
Those deals come and go quite often recently.
go www.slickdeals.net

If you are considering buying a pc specifically for dota2 consider waiting until SteamOS Linux is released and dota2 is ported and find out what is most compatible. (will most likely be not too expensive). Plus no Micro$oft.

@ghouly/pacman - did you read the whole article that you linked? The third page says that Dota2 runs perfectly well on an i5.

DUDE. SPEND MORE ON POWER SUPPLY. 400W no-name PSU doesn't sound good; even if you decide not to take the advice to spend more on graphics, it'll be inefficient as hell and probably still die in a year or two. Ideally, get an 80+ certified one.

Yes lancew... Hence I recommended an i5? I'm saying the 4670k is probably overkill for an i5....

You will see the benchmarks are run with an i5 AND a graphics card through the benchmarks, as well as using the integrated HD4000 which didn't gives the greatest results....

Dota is not that intensive and settings can be lowered, but it's still a PC built around playing the game so a discrete graphics card is really a must. Big team fights will slow a crappy hd4000 down. To me it is absurd to have spend $800 on a PC to play a game, and spend so little proportionally on the core component for rendering the game :|

If Dota is so easy to run why does the guy need a $300 core i7 lol. Get the cheapest i5 you can find and make sure you don't skimp on the PSU. You'll regret it when the cheap ass one blows half your components apart.

Mainly in agreement with OA*_Havoc Badger, slightly beefier graphics card though but nothing too special - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/28ROv

Yeah looking at the benchmarks there is no way you are getting even half good graphics or past 60fps.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-6.html

>Texture quality matters.
>Resolution matters ( in theory you can max all settings in game running at 1024 x 768 but it will look ass)
>There is a slider called rendering quality which people never move past the middle point which is why they think they are "max"

Friend on a HD4000 - http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/594741840543782490/DE6D62F74CDC6F57963F29FB2D8964D250822E2D/

Me on a GTX770 - http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/902100723111619564/36C70D571214E99FE15645B4491EFF75A475464A/

It does make a difference and some people think that things are ok or run max but that is only because they have just grown accustomed to it always being that way. The game however isn't demanding and can still be run acceptably on a lower gen graphics card.

>Go for a mid range i5
>Go for 4-8 GB of ram, no more or less
>Go for a mid range Nvidia/ATI or a top end of either from the last gen.
>Go for a PSU that is of high quality and is at least 500w. A PSU can make or break your system.
>Mobo - Gigabyte, Intel, ASUS. ( other brands too expensive or have additional stuff you don't need or is cheaply made)
>Get a case that is well ventilated and comes with at least a couple stock fans.
>For your HDD I would suggest buying a small SSD for your operating system and programs then buying a 1/2/3 TB Drive for storage

What you're looking at above should cost no more than $800 and is considered a viable mid-high end gaming/anything else PC. Anything lower or higher you may regret in the long run.

Havoc Badger and Ghouly/Pacman have given the best advice you will get