@samo I thought dota buff displayed what kind of game each match was. Not saying they are doing the LPQ thing, but i was under the impression it would be visible.
Why they were banned i don't know. What I do know... is that i cant fathom why players of such caliber want to effortless stomp opponents that are generally unprepared and mismatched. MMR is finally visible in ranked mode... who cares about win rates? Sure, its great to stomp sometimes, but continuously ruining games for other people... i just dont get it. Why would you invest so much time into this?
You guys have the daily opportunity to play against the best players in the world, with ranked and visible MMR... and you spend 60+ games on a new account stacking normal matching making (which doesn't even have a solo option only anymore) on the Russian server...
people with high winrate ruin games for everyone? are you retarded? please dont put retarded abusing mongoloids like vrok, fadi etc with decent players with high winrate
EU East > Russia > US??? "Russia" server is really trash. EU East is a bit better, but not much. I don't believe US guys are playing such shitty matches.
i said players smurfing on fresh new accounts, 5 man stacked, in normal match making against solo pubers ruins game for people. Or fountain camping defeated enemies for 20+ minutes and 200 kills...
Win rate is completely irrelevant.
And as i understand it they choose to play Russian server because of ping, since its located in Sweden or somewhere near there. Again, I dont know why this person is banned on dotabuff, and I dont care one way or the other.
Actually Russia or SEA is a good deal lower that US East as late night EU West gamers go there along with some of the top tier US players.
@Darkness you realize that he is solo queuing to get a ranking score right? The fact that he ends up with randomers is anyones guess as I have lost 2-3 ranked games already due to playerbase just being downright shite. So you are upset because they stack (what all team players do) and upset because they play the same things over and over (again what most teams do) with a well defined strategy? I fail to see how this is either abuse or bad.
About the games fadi played Co-op.
It was because noone was online(he dont play alone since he wants top50 ) and he wanted exp since hes not lvl 13 yet (we cant play ranked with him)
ANd you get battle points for Co-op games. YOu seriously think you can get low prio of playing vs bots?
"US EAST HAVE PLAYERS MORE SKILLED PLAYERS THAN EU EAST AND RUSSIA"
http://dotabuff.com/matches/427308424 i was sf and i can play fine with 200 ms ping, i sometimes play in us east with a friend or two to win ez games when im tired of tryharding in good ol' EU
checkmate trash
i can see like 4 or 5 people in top 20 dotabuff list who lives in eu but queues in us east as well, so there goes your fucking theory out of the water, now pls stop pretending ur opinion is valuable, go practice vs bots and become good at this game.. we dont need more relentless clones
And fadi only got highest 5~ low prio games, And those are the first 5 games he played. The low prio was also because of chris :)
Those 5 ~games were 9 days ago.
asså är du trög? han blev inte bannad p.g.a. low priority denna gång, han lirar endast wisp/ursa och dotabuff admins tycker inte att han förtjänar att hamna på ranking
^
vivivvivivi
''i was told by my friend about his new acc and looked up some of fadis first 30 games on his new account and they were in low priority, i still have the replays downloaded :)''
''no hes banned because he's playing in low priority, abuses wisp/ursa every match, least played/limited hero pool and pretends it's fine to do so''
''Vivivivivi : Because its true, his first 20-30 games have been low prio''
^
I have been in 90% of his games.
Only the first 5~games were low prio.
I think i know better myself since i was in those games.
Viviv wow your arguments... just wow.. I feel so stupid even answering you.
"no hes banned because he's playing in low priority, abuses wisp/ursa every match, least played/limited hero pool and pretends it's fine to do so"
Please check how many least played/limited hero pool games I have in this account! NONE!
Abuse Ursa/Wisp every match and leave if fail rosh - NEVER left after failing, check my "No stats recorded" matches. Also, as it has been mentioned before, I play wisp every game because I like this OP hero and I play him with legion commander more than ursa lately. Is this also a problem to you?
Low priority? I can count with 1 hand the matches I played in low priority. And I remember 100% I told Chris that I'm not going to play with him again if he gets more low priority after we finish it for him. (he had 3-5 games or so)
EDIT: PS: As Vroksnak said, I play Co-Op because I need level 13 to start playing Ranked Match Making. Is this also a problem? lol.
@To lasthit: "...least played/limited heroes pool and a bit of low priority." You see? You said low priority yourself. That's why.
I will ask you the same question... did you even read my thread? I said that IN MY PREVIOUS ACCOUNT I played least played/limited heroes/low prio. PLEASE I thought the Dota2 community age is 18+...
Abandon, get into LPQ, search in some shitty server for noob players, pick io ursa every game, get 90% winrate for playing 1 strat over and over again against trench tier russians for 100 games
I think these rankings should be applied only for ranked games in the near future... This way we'd avoid all these 50 games pros, lpq abusers, "low mmr friend" abuse, etc.
Actually from the point i went to US servers my matches are far better and longer when i was in EU there were 4 russians in my team who flamed eachother for 15 minutes then one abandoned
Also insta pudge picks are way more than US servers and i've seen people actually play well on US servers while in EU it was always
A: cyka
B: fuck you russian ass gtfo from Eu plz
C: mierda
D: arabs
E: romanians that were worse than ruskies
lol what? you need 500, five hundred, games to appear on dotabuff ranking
where the fuck did you pull the "50" from? both normal and ranked should be included, normal matchmaking is just ranked matchmaking with hidden numbers
@darkness
my winrate is above 80% and i dont need to 5 man stack to win in us east, i would link you matches ive played in us east but im too lazy to find them but i linked one in this thread.
so yeah go fuck yourself, i play in eu west, eu east and russia often since i live in sweden and us east is much easier to win in, your rating is probably 2-3k or something as well so pls dont assume your opinion matters thanks
if i had fiber internet, i would queue in us east and win every game solo or with a friend if i could so its really hard for me to play in us east with 200 ms ping.
@darkness
thats me, i cant post with that account here because im banned from posting permanently because apparently there is a zero tolerance policy towards calling one of the dotabuff devs jason =)
feel free to write on my profile and i'll confirm its me
Wisp pickers get autoban, especially when they create accounts with solo purpose to step up ladder (there is a lot of wisp pickers trying to do that).
For some reasons, dotabuff don't like wisp pickers (nobody ever likes wisp pickers, die in hell). :D
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420873035 thats why you was banned
reason is "bad influence on newbie's community"
I had some problems with db-supports on my old smurf.
Fadi. Getting Dire 60% of the time is not suspicious, but when the majority of your games are Dire side, then it's obvious that you're just dodging at load screen so that you can get that awesome fast Rosh.
Other people did that and got banned, so dunno why they're acting so surprised.
the abnormally high dire rate is potentially a reason. This would be an indication of dodging (d/cing before pick screen) in order to ensure playing on the dire side. (again, don't really care one way or another about banning).
Not really one for statistics but this should fit for 20 games.
Edit: fadi however hasn't only played 20 games. Fadi has played, as of this post, 74 games. I was not about to go through all 74, however i did take a look at the second page of 20 games, and again there was a significantly abnormal number of dire games. The chances of this happening are infinitesimal.....
@samo I thought dota buff displayed what kind of game each match was. Not saying they are doing the LPQ thing, but i was under the impression it would be visible.
Why they were banned i don't know. What I do know... is that i cant fathom why players of such caliber want to effortless stomp opponents that are generally unprepared and mismatched. MMR is finally visible in ranked mode... who cares about win rates? Sure, its great to stomp sometimes, but continuously ruining games for other people... i just dont get it. Why would you invest so much time into this?
You guys have the daily opportunity to play against the best players in the world, with ranked and visible MMR... and you spend 60+ games on a new account stacking normal matching making (which doesn't even have a solo option only anymore) on the Russian server...
I don't see the point either, but I think they can do it if they want, and there's no reason to ban them since I think they are not exploiting.
people with high winrate ruin games for everyone? are you retarded? please dont put retarded abusing mongoloids like vrok, fadi etc with decent players with high winrate
EU East > Russia > US??? "Russia" server is really trash. EU East is a bit better, but not much. I don't believe US guys are playing such shitty matches.
i said players smurfing on fresh new accounts, 5 man stacked, in normal match making against solo pubers ruins game for people. Or fountain camping defeated enemies for 20+ minutes and 200 kills...
Win rate is completely irrelevant.
And as i understand it they choose to play Russian server because of ping, since its located in Sweden or somewhere near there. Again, I dont know why this person is banned on dotabuff, and I dont care one way or the other.
Actually Russia or SEA is a good deal lower that US East as late night EU West gamers go there along with some of the top tier US players.
@Darkness you realize that he is solo queuing to get a ranking score right? The fact that he ends up with randomers is anyones guess as I have lost 2-3 ranked games already due to playerbase just being downright shite. So you are upset because they stack (what all team players do) and upset because they play the same things over and over (again what most teams do) with a well defined strategy? I fail to see how this is either abuse or bad.
russia is far ahead of US east and west when it comes to skill
@OA*_Havoc Badger
oh man defending cheaters and spreading lies about "eu west gamers" playing in us east during late night.
why the fuck do you think your opinion matters trash?
About the games fadi played Co-op.
It was because noone was online(he dont play alone since he wants top50 ) and he wanted exp since hes not lvl 13 yet (we cant play ranked with him)
ANd you get battle points for Co-op games. YOu seriously think you can get low prio of playing vs bots?
Your a lost cause seriously.
Idk why anyone should care about the ban, there must be a mystery I cannot see.
man får lp om man feedar i co-op idiot, varför spelar du dum för?
"US EAST HAVE PLAYERS MORE SKILLED PLAYERS THAN EU EAST AND RUSSIA"
http://dotabuff.com/matches/427308424
i was sf and i can play fine with 200 ms ping, i sometimes play in us east with a friend or two to win ez games when im tired of tryharding in good ol' EU
checkmate trash
i can see like 4 or 5 people in top 20 dotabuff list who lives in eu but queues in us east as well, so there goes your fucking theory out of the water, now pls stop pretending ur opinion is valuable, go practice vs bots and become good at this game.. we dont need more relentless clones
Ok then. Lets test you theory 'Vivivivi:
If fadi played Co-op for low prio, (The first Co-op game he played was 5 days ago http://dotabuff.com/matches/420033496)
And fadi only got highest 5~ low prio games, And those are the first 5 games he played. The low prio was also because of chris :)
Those 5 ~games were 9 days ago.
Dont it make you wonder?
asså är du trög? han blev inte bannad p.g.a. low priority denna gång, han lirar endast wisp/ursa och dotabuff admins tycker inte att han förtjänar att hamna på ranking
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vivivvivivi
''i was told by my friend about his new acc and looked up some of fadis first 30 games on his new account and they were in low priority, i still have the replays downloaded :)''
''no hes banned because he's playing in low priority, abuses wisp/ursa every match, least played/limited hero pool and pretends it's fine to do so''
Then why are you saying this?^
därför att det är sant, hans första 20-30 matcher har vart i low priority
''Vivivivivi : Because its true, his first 20-30 games have been low prio''
^
I have been in 90% of his games.
Only the first 5~games were low prio.
I think i know better myself since i was in those games.
Viviv wow your arguments... just wow.. I feel so stupid even answering you.
"no hes banned because he's playing in low priority, abuses wisp/ursa every match, least played/limited hero pool and pretends it's fine to do so"
Please check how many least played/limited hero pool games I have in this account! NONE!
Abuse Ursa/Wisp every match and leave if fail rosh - NEVER left after failing, check my "No stats recorded" matches. Also, as it has been mentioned before, I play wisp every game because I like this OP hero and I play him with legion commander more than ursa lately. Is this also a problem to you?
Low priority? I can count with 1 hand the matches I played in low priority. And I remember 100% I told Chris that I'm not going to play with him again if he gets more low priority after we finish it for him. (he had 3-5 games or so)
EDIT: PS: As Vroksnak said, I play Co-Op because I need level 13 to start playing Ranked Match Making. Is this also a problem? lol.
@To lasthit: "...least played/limited heroes pool and a bit of low priority." You see? You said low priority yourself. That's why.
I will ask you the same question... did you even read my thread? I said that IN MY PREVIOUS ACCOUNT I played least played/limited heroes/low prio. PLEASE I thought the Dota2 community age is 18+...
@the tard who doesnt understand this abuse strat
Abandon, get into LPQ, search in some shitty server for noob players, pick io ursa every game, get 90% winrate for playing 1 strat over and over again against trench tier russians for 100 games
esp wink youre a smart one
shoutout to who ever banned fadi 'i'll pay you something nice from dota 2 store :)
pretty sure its because its a smurf account.
I think these rankings should be applied only for ranked games in the near future... This way we'd avoid all these 50 games pros, lpq abusers, "low mmr friend" abuse, etc.
Actually from the point i went to US servers my matches are far better and longer when i was in EU there were 4 russians in my team who flamed eachother for 15 minutes then one abandoned
Also insta pudge picks are way more than US servers and i've seen people actually play well on US servers while in EU it was always
A: cyka
B: fuck you russian ass gtfo from Eu plz
C: mierda
D: arabs
E: romanians that were worse than ruskies
I just cant imagine how bad RU servers are
@Darkness
In EU, "russian" is a generic term for "noob that does not communicate / speak english". Same as "mexican" in US or "pinoy" in SEA.
lol what? you need 500, five hundred, games to appear on dotabuff ranking
where the fuck did you pull the "50" from? both normal and ranked should be included, normal matchmaking is just ranked matchmaking with hidden numbers
@darkness
my winrate is above 80% and i dont need to 5 man stack to win in us east, i would link you matches ive played in us east but im too lazy to find them but i linked one in this thread.
so yeah go fuck yourself, i play in eu west, eu east and russia often since i live in sweden and us east is much easier to win in, your rating is probably 2-3k or something as well so pls dont assume your opinion matters thanks
if i had fiber internet, i would queue in us east and win every game solo or with a friend if i could so its really hard for me to play in us east with 200 ms ping.
sucks but its ez win anyway
Why do people boost KDA?
@Abraxix92
to look cool
@vivivvivivi
Did you see anyone with 500 games complaining about being excluded from dotabuff rankings?
@yoshi, yeah but it look's kinda pathetic.
@Abraxix92
it does indeed
@vivivi
Wat you are going to find matches that an anon done well on us east and claim it was you
Russia server is retarded
You made him angry
Lord Gaben shows no mercy
Beg for forgiveness
This thread is full of funny.
That's all I wanted to say.
lmfao russian servers
@darkness
thats me, i cant post with that account here because im banned from posting permanently because apparently there is a zero tolerance policy towards calling one of the dotabuff devs jason =)
feel free to write on my profile and i'll confirm its me
@Vroksnak
Är du svensk din jävel? :D
Wisp pickers get autoban, especially when they create accounts with solo purpose to step up ladder (there is a lot of wisp pickers trying to do that).
For some reasons, dotabuff don't like wisp pickers (nobody ever likes wisp pickers, die in hell). :D
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420873035
thats why you was banned
reason is "bad influence on newbie's community"
I had some problems with db-supports on my old smurf.
#Cut for fadiflashi
Oh My V-God
i was banned for the same reason
http://dotabuff.com/players/143020839
i have around 20-30 matches in limited hero pool, i guess i'll get unbanned later :)
Just the fact that your last 20 games were 95% on Dire side just screams to me that you dodged at load screen when you're not on Dire.
Or you're just really lucky.
me or the faggot?
whenever i stack with my friends, we get dire side
Fadi. Getting Dire 60% of the time is not suspicious, but when the majority of your games are Dire side, then it's obvious that you're just dodging at load screen so that you can get that awesome fast Rosh.
Other people did that and got banned, so dunno why they're acting so surprised.
not really, i used to have 98% of my games on dire side until i reached 400 matches.
i never dodge ~
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about them.
Dodging at load screen doesn't make the game count as anything, since the match hasn't started yet.
the abnormally high dire rate is potentially a reason. This would be an indication of dodging (d/cing before pick screen) in order to ensure playing on the dire side. (again, don't really care one way or another about banning).
Not really one for statistics but this should fit for 20 games.
Comb = 20!/(H!T!)
R D Comb %chance
20 0 1 0.00009536
19 1 20 0.00190734
18 2 190 0.01811981
17 3 1140 0.10871887
16 4 4845 0.46205520
15 5 15504 1.47857666
14 6 38760 3.69644165
13 7 77520 7.39288330
12 8 125970 12.01343536
11 9 167960 16.01791381
10 10 184756 17.61970520
9 11 167960 16.01791381
8 12 125970 12.01343536
7 13 77520 7.39288330
6 14 38760 3.69644165
5 15 15504 1.47857666
4 16 4845 0.46205520
3 17 1140 0.10871887
2 18 190 0.01811981
1 19 20 0.00190734 <= Statistical chance of getting Dire 19 out of 20 games.
0 20 1 0.00009536
Sum 2**20 100.00
Edit: fadi however hasn't only played 20 games. Fadi has played, as of this post, 74 games. I was not about to go through all 74, however i did take a look at the second page of 20 games, and again there was a significantly abnormal number of dire games. The chances of this happening are infinitesimal.....
wow noone didnt know this?
The bigger stack allways gets dire (since the latest patch)
If the stack is the same 4v4 3v3 5v5 etc, then its random. Otherwise its ALLWAYS the bigger stack whos dire.
I mean before some of the latest patches i was dire 95% of my games when i was stacking. No jokes. You can check my games. Im allways dire. :)
@vroksnak that is both interesting and strange. I did not know that.
Out of curiosity, do you feel your level 1 rosh strat would be as effective without that rather bizarre bit of coding?
I'm sorry sir but you're just too good! You're f-god for a reason! :D:):P!!