batrider is fucked
and omni will be op in pubs, buy an orb of venom and you'll have almost 50% slow (with your aura) which is an venomancer Q rofl OP PLEZ
they nerfed my potm.... im about to cry :'(............... and the slight buff on drow wont make me happy
The thing I've just thought of now, Juggernaut now has the fastest BAT in the game (apart from Alch Ult), whilst still having a relatively high Agility growth at 2.85 a level. does this give him enough potential to be considered a Hard Carry? Or is he still just a mid-game "sort of carry" hero who cant really go toe-to-toe with other hard carries?
I remember seeing him outcarry pl in some pro game, although idk how the fuck that happened
^I remember seeing that too, and although I still think he's best suited to a more midgame carry style, I think he would be perfectly suitable to play the lategame role if he was built that way, and that he's a bit underrated lategame
Ogre Magi can Bloodlust BKB'd units? Does this mean that activating BKB while Bloodlusted won't remove the buff? If so, that hero might actually be viable.
And holy shit Ancient Seal is now Decrepify, what the hell.
Leap into Arrow is now shit; sorry SingSing.
And why did Sampson comment on anything besides the BH buff? Extra roam time, being able to refresh while still stealthed (yes, fade time, but there's a 5 second window now).
Batrider gettin some HATE . but tat's not gonna stop him from getting his early blink and shut down his impact still . everyone max firefly anyways . u just have to spam first when getting a huge stacked camp.
Don't be tricked. Bat is still bat
Buffing the Degen Aura again. Buy an Early OoV and you have a 22% mana free slow at skill lvl 1.
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Correct me if im wrong sampson but don't you skill the invis for the extra damage? You can proc it 3 times in a row iirc although the timing gets tricky at lv 3-4
Goodbye invoker again, wtf is wrong with that? Valve nerfing iceiceice? Not like invoker was imba or anything.
Ffs. Where dem anti-mage buffs frogger? How about we play a game of, manabreak no longer an orb effect? Seems ursa and huskar had no problem doing so....
What stood out to me were the Skywrath Mage and QoP of Pain buffs, ohhboyy. Dat Cold Snap nerf doe.
finally POTM nerf and a jug buff. So will we see a jug vs. wk duels? Omniknight gonna hurt alot in pubs.
Bad: Zeus Buff. Tree nerf. Slardar buff.
Good: Voker nerf. Mjollnir nerf. Bat nerf. Mirana Nerf. Most of the other minor changes.
"DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT COLDSNAP DEALING LIKE NO DAMAGE NOW?!"
Lots of people care about this. They get a warm fuzzy feeling.
"DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT COLDSNAP DEALING LIKE NO DAMAGE NOW?!"
Lots of people care about this. They get a warm fuzzy feeling.
So so so so agree!
Top 3 likes/dislikes:
Likes:
1. Juggernaut BAT to 1.4
2. Invoker nerfs (all of them)
3. Bounty Hunter buff
Dislikes:
1. Omniknight buff
2. Zeus buff
3. Batrider nerf (eh, I don't dislike many of the changes at all)
I don't think the cold snap change is *too* much of a big deal, at level 4 quas you do 28 damage per proc, compared to the 30 (and 60 initial) that once was, and considering most players go for 4 in quas early game, it needs the early game effectiveness in the laning stage, but if you max it that's 49 damage per proc, which is probably a late game buff to some extent
^ early-game nerfs hurt a lot more than late-game buffs generally. And int's not even a late-game buff since it takes at least 4 procs to do more damage than before with level 7 quas(which people used to level last) and with level 4 quas(which is(was) standart) you do 60 +2*ProcNumber less damage, which makes invoker a kitten in lane. I like dat.
and getting too many levels of quas early doesn't do much AFAIK. Maybe ice wall will come in play more.
Riki smoke cool down from 13 to 11 seconds. He's going be even more disgusting in pubs now. Can't understand why he's getting another buff considering he's seeing a rise in both popularity and success in the pro scene.
6.81b is Invoker's worst patch as far as I can remember. Cold snap is voker's foundation, and now that it deals basically no damage in lane phase, Invoker will drop to the bottom tier again.
Nope, alacrity is still only a farming tool; it cannot carry at all. If alacrity gave nearby creeps a temporary armor or damage buff, then Wexort can be viable.
Everyone, say farewell to Invoker for TI 4....
It's good cause we're gonna see more interesting heroes than just invoker all the time. Don't misunderstand me, I like voker and all but it's just too much.
Jesus, Drow practically has a stun now. You could get like three attacks in from that .9 second KB.
Invoker change is fair and makes sense while encouraging the leveling of Quas and not being a nerf on Invoker's lategame.
Mirana arrow nerf is a godsend for people who are eating melee arrows i guess?
Holy shit they buffed Ogre?
And Slardar's bash becoming physical was probably enough of a buff if you ask me, he is quite good now.
Undying is a beastly motherfucker now? Gotta try.
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6.81b Gameplay Changes:
HEROES
Ancient Apparition
* Ice Vortex slow decreased from 18/22/26/30% to 15/20/25/30%
Batrider
* Sticky Napalm bonus damage is now halved against non-hero units
Bounty Hunter
* Shadow Walk duration increased from 15/20/25/30 to 20/25/30/35
Doom
* Devour manacost rescaled from 60/50/40/30 to 60
Drow Ranger
* Gust knockback duration increased from 0.5 to 0.6/0.7/0.8/0.9
Earthshaker
* Turn rate improved from 0.6 to 0.9
* Echo Slam's Initial Damage, Echo Search, Echo Damage AOE increased from 525, 550, 500 to 575, 575, 575
Elder Titan
* Echo Stomp damage increased from 80/85/90/95 to 80/90/100/110
Enigma
* Midnight Pulse duration increased from 8 to 11
Invoker
* Forged Spirits 33% magic resistance removed
* Cold Snap damage reworked from the initial and secondary proc damage of 60/30 to 7xQuasLevel per proc
* Deafening Blast's Disarm is now dispelled when Magic Immunity is applied
Juggernaut
* Omnislash damage per slash rescaled from 175-250 to 200-225
* Base Attack Time improved from 1.5 to 1.4
Leshrac
* Pulse Nova damage increased from 66/100/144 to 80/120/160 (Scepter from 100/150/200 to 100/160/220)
Lina
* Light Strike Array stun duration increased from 1.6 to 1.6/1.7/1.8/1.9
Lycan
* Howl duration decreased from 12 to 10
* Howl bonus damage reduced from 20/30/40/50 to 14/26/38/50
Mirana
* Sacred Arrow minimum stun duration decreased from 0.5 to 0.01 (maximum duration is still 5 seconds growing linearly)
* Sacred Arrow minimum damage reduced by 40 (maximum damage is still 190/280/370/460 growing linearly)
Ogre Magi
* Multicast's passive manacost penalty on Fireblast reduced from 30/70/110 to 20/40/60
* Bloodlust can now be cast on Magic Immune allies
Omniknight
* Degen Aura slow increased from 7/14/21/28% to 10/18/26/34%
Phantom Assassin
* Phantom Strike bonus attack speed increased from 100 to 130
Queen of Pain
* Shadow Strike cast range increased from 435 to 450/475/500/525
Riki
* Smoke Screen cooldown reduced from 13 to 11
Skywrath Mage
* Ancient Seal damage amplification increased from 18/24/30/36% to 30/35/40/45%
Slardar
* Bash bonus damage increased from 40/60/80/100 to 60/80/100/120
Treant Protector
* Leech Seed damage per pulse decreased from 24/36/48/60 to 15/30/45/60
Tusk
* Snowball cooldown reduced from 21 to 21/20/19/18
* Walrus Punch cooldown reduced from 30/24/18 to 25/20/15
Undying
* Intelligence growth increased from 2.0 to 2.5
Windranger
* Focus Fire manacost decreased from 150 to 75/100/125
Zeus
* Lightning Bolt vision and truesight duration increased from 3 to 4.5
* Lightning Bolt search area of effect increased from 250 to 325
ITEMS
Mjollnir
* Recipe cost increased from 600 to 900
* Static Charge duration decreased from 20 to 15