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General DiscussionCould we get more useful hero item statistics?

Could we get more useful hero item statistics? in General Discussion
Shawn Gigglesworth

    If someone here is good at maths, basically I'm looking for something that will tell me what items are actually good for a specific hero, but relatively.

    I would love this as a feature.

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    Shawn Gigglesworth

      Ok forget my first post.

      Ill do an mock example for antimage:

      AM drums winrate = 40%
      AM basher winrate = 80%

      Item value = (1/(1 - winrate))/gold

      Drums value = (1/(1 - 0.4))/1850 = 0.9009
      Basher value = (1/(1 - 0.8))/2950 = 1.6949
      Therefore basher worth more for increasing winrate for its worth of gold

      ^I multiplied answers by 1000 for better numbers

      epsik-kun

        Dude, it doesn't work this way.

        Shawn Gigglesworth

          How does it work then?

          Kryptnyt

            There's more to take into account because a lot of early game items that have a big impact on the game are sold as the game progresses to a conclusion.

            MARLAN

              Buy Divine Rapier first every game all game because Shawn's math says so.

              epsik-kun

                Dotabuff only takes in account items in players' inventory at the moment of Throne going down. So, if player had some particular item in the early game, but exchanged it for another - you'll not get him into statistics.
                Also, winrates are heavily biased by peoples going default builds. For example, look at Medusa's page. She has gradually increasing win-rate with Linken's>Manta>Skadi>Butterfly, but it doesn't means that Butterfly is crazily amazing on Medusa and you should rush it. It only means, that Medusa with 4 big items has ~80% win-rate.
                Same goes for luxurity items, you wouldn't normally buy. Drow, for example has great win-rate with Dagon 5. New meta?

                Same goes for Basher on AM. Usually you will go Battlefury, Manta, Butterfly, Heart, Blink Dagger, Eul, Dagon, etc. before going Basher, therefore it has big winrate.

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                Shawn Gigglesworth

                  Fair enough. Still it could shed insight into some items still. Like drums vs vanguard?

                  And yeah I still stand by Slark DR, although I've been having more success with Sniper DR. :p