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    Another hard luck game, this time I tried to push and farm at the same time, but disruptor got mad coz i didnt gank as a mid.

    What build suggestions for this type of game? would linkens have been better?

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1081497395

    Miracle`-

      Why still have vlad? Should of sold it and bought a mjolnir or divine

      Terrible

        actually farming and not building trash like deso/vlads and probably butterfly would have helped

        if you instead, had satanic, MKB and then something like AC would have helped you out a lot more

        आप गे क्यों

          you were outdrafted. simple as that.

          initating teamfights are also key late.
          With sb, ss, mirana arrow/ulti and sb jugg ...anyone of them can gank/initate.

          And your team has a dagon nyx...so hard life.
          but holy fuck a butter on ss

          Sup m8

            I wouldn't have gotten butterfly, i would've gone ac or satanic because they have 4 mkbs on their team.

            Zero IX

              Quick disclaimer: 1) Hindsight is 20/20, and 2) I'm a low-skill dumbo.

              That said, seeing as how your opponent had the stronger late game lineup (including multiple MKB carrier candidates), I don't think Vlad's-Deso was the wrong choice. Even if those items are typically more suited for a position 2 or 3 mid-game-oriented PA than a position 1 "hard carry" PA, engaging in a farm war given the composition of your team vs. theirs would have been ill-advised. Your best shot at winning was in the neighborhood of 30-40 minutes (often a "sweet spot" for PA) when the enemy was still largely susceptible to getting burst down by yourself and Zeus without having a chance to retaliate.

              If you go Vlad's-Deso, it is extremely helpful for someone on the team to pickup an early Medallion, and I would also suggest prioritizing Deso over Basher. For example, if Bristlepig had disassembled his Basi ring to build a Medallion and you had picked up Deso prior to Basher, the two of you would have been a lot to handle in gank between your multiple slows and armor reductions, even if it slightly delayed his Vanguard further. I personally find early Bashers to be underwhelming on max Blur builds.

              Another note is that max Blur PA can solo Rosh with lifesteal and some damage. Especially on the Dire, I recommend hitting Rosh as soon as you get your damage item; if you want to play it safe, you can have a team or even the courier positioned outside the pit for you to Blink Strike out to in case you're somehow scouted out (PA's new Blur will alert you to the presence of any nearby enemies in advance). Turning an early Aegis into one or more outer towers and those towers into map control is an example of how this advantage could have been leveraged.

              While Butterfly is somewhat underrated on PA (more than just extra evasion, it's a great damage item), AC would have definitely been a better here, especially for turning a favorable skirmish into a successful push. You might not have been able to see them all, but the enemy had a completed MKB on Juggernaut, a Demon Edge on Storm, and Javelins in Spirit Breaker and Mirana's inventories prior to your pickup of Butterfly at 40 minutes—AC would have been more useful for blunting a bit of their phsyical damage while helping you to kill them faster with the extra armor reduction.

              Last couple notes on your build: Abyssal is extremely powerful, but I either would have placed higher priority on upgrading the Basher sooner (when my odds of killing an elusive enemy such as Storm during the stun duration was more likely) or just skipped Basher in favor of a Manta since not only is Manta a great item for PA in general, but your team's pushing power was pretty lackluster. Just a thought. Linken's would have also have been worth considering this game, but I probably would have preferred someone else to get it and place the active on you since the team appeared to be relying heavily on you for damage output.

              Of course, all of this is much easier said than done. Think of it more as possibly some ideas for future matches. Wrangling your fellow pubbies to follow a prescribed course of action is often difficult, especially in the Normal Skill bracket, and especially-especially when you've been outdrafted. On a lighter note, Disruptor's fifty-minute Mek and Nyx's fifty-three-minute naked Dagon 5 couldn't have been very helpful at all, and there were certainly better options for Bristlepig than that second Heart since any semi-competent team would save him for last in a teamfight anyway (he could have been the AC carrier or made a Linken's to put on his carry or some other utility item).

              Spuuky

                good luck convincing your team to buy items to help you m8

                But really with that immense gold consider retooling your inventory; for instance, selling your Desolator (even though it was a good buy earlier) for an orb with better late game power like Satanic. Their lockdown isn't really that great so you should be able to full-heal with the Satanic activation when needed.

                Taco

                  Butterfly on Pa when enemy has 4 mkb

                  Why no radiance