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General Discussiontroll & jugger

troll & jugger in General Discussion
whiskey waters

    im sick of this shit, every patch there are heroes completely broken, how fuckin hard it is to balance a game that is alrdy 99% balanced.
    eeevery fuckin patch they just nerf the old broken and make new ones.

    like find a single game where jugger or troll isnt picked..

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      Dravic

        I think troll is pretty strong, his ult is extreme pushing, team fighting and fishing tool. It only gets ridiculous when you pair troll warlord with meepo on the same side, since each meepo gets his buff, its worth it to just rush treads blink and at lvl 10, if troll launches ult, meepo can instakill anyone. Heheh

        Miku Plays

          new line up : troll, jugger, meepo, ck, omni

          Soultrap

            Juggernaut, Troll, Axe and Slark in every match...

            the realm's delight

              fucking jugger pickers

              圣

                dude its always like this either the least played hero gets a rework which makes him broken or the strongest heroes get nerfed to the ground

                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                  Troll didn't even get buffed, it was just a bug fix and now he is OP while before he was useless? Come on. The hero was always insane, it's just people didn't play him. Also he goes well with Jugg, that's another reason for him to be popular.

                  King of Low Prio

                    juggs base attack speed it way too low.

                    whiskey waters

                      of fuckin course that fix change everything, how can u even say that.

                      Steror

                        If you actually played troll before the buff, then you'd know that he was just as good as any other carry. Like others have said, people just started playing the hero and noticed that he's good.

                        bibi

                          Trolls fine. Jugg needs a slight nerf.

                          Tiny Airlines

                            Troll needs some moderate tweaking on his attacking speed yes, Juggernaut needs more nerfs, and this hasn't been mentioned yet, but I think Crystal Maiden needs to be nerfed just a teeny tiny bit.

                            Necrophos in my opinion has GOT to be nerfed really hard - there was no reason, absolutely NO fucking reason to make his ult disable buyback and add 30 seconds of respawn time.

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                            King of Low Prio

                              Zelda cant go one day without making a fool of himself

                              THICC BABY SHUM

                                ^ axaxaxaax
                                + 25 respect

                                Howard Donald

                                  So broken I hate it.

                                  Dire Wolf

                                    Troll is picked a lot? Really? I never see him except when I play him and for this week he's like 30th and behind such heroes as anti Mage and spirit breaker. He is hardly overplayed.

                                    N4

                                      The perfect nerf for Necrophos is that his ulty doesn't stun, but in stead works like Naga's net or something. (hello nyx pick every time I see him)
                                      Or just make it instant without stun and make the cast time slightly bigger.

                                      matrice

                                        Troll need an increase of int, and int growth (and an according increase of mana cost of all his spell)

                                        So just an aquila isn't enough to sustain mana. (not to mention how one arcane shot give mana for almost all his spell)

                                        Hopeless
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                                          Dire Wolf

                                            Idk why troll needs a nerf, if you let him out farm you and get all his items he wins, if not he doesn't. Build a bunch of eul's and pick a bunch of disables. His win rate this week is 54%, high but not absurdly high. CM's is 55% and no one's suggesting nerfs to her (except the young zelda lol)

                                            matrice

                                              Considering troll's power in lategame, he shouldn't be able to handle most people 1v1 as easy as he does currently.

                                              Generally speaking, i think every hero should have more mana problem than they have right now. (venge is in a fine spot, but skymage for example, deal way too much dmg, for it's mana cost (apart from ult). Heroes who struggle with mana should not be the like of ck, but rather the like of troll/tb

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                                              Tiny Airlines

                                                Troll's already closing into the top 20 most popular heroes this week - hell he was maybe 38th most popular just a few days ago now he's already maybe 24th or 23rd.

                                                Arek Akashi

                                                  why do you guys talking about troll/jugger when there is a slark in Dota 2

                                                  Tiny Airlines

                                                    Because Juggernaut is a major problem in Dota 2 right now - slark is the least of my worries.

                                                    I keep getting teamed against asshats that pick Juggernaut.

                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                      He 1v1s people who don't get bkb/don't get mkb to mitigate his whirling axes and then get bashed to death. A PA with basher/abyssal and bkb is actually really hard to beat 1v1 cus she will bash you first and you won't be able to chain bash her. But most PA's are stupid fuckers and won't build the right shit to fight you and iwll come at you with like battlefury and get squashed.