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whatever it takes

    Hey guys! Here's a thread on PL, a hero I've been using while practicing on alt accounts, being able to reach a peak of 5,7k solo with it. Before I go on a PL grind to raise this account from 5,4 to maybe even 6k, I'd love to hear your opinion on the hero & builds that may be viable on the hero besides the standard boots -> yasha -> diffusal -> travel -> manta item progression. I'd also like to see from whom I'd be able to learn more advanced tips from PL, so it would be great if you would be able to name players who have played PL to huge success

    Miku Plays

      Im no pro but i go with, treads > diffusal > skadi/SnY > daedalus > butterfly.

      Sell SnY later for Eblade.

      bobbyross
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        mwsqz

          @op how do u build his spells?

          Blackwolf

            why no lifesteal ? hero is manfighter now; also you can jungle with lifeateal...

            i liked mom better than vlads or dominator...

            sny is cool but so is manta.

            lategame is something like treads/travels / diffusal / manta/ satanic (from mom) / skadi / daedalus ?

            what to swap for butterfly?

            whatever it takes

              @Nova
              I usually go 3-1-1 then after 6 i either max out W if i feel the need to do so, otherwise i build on stats if i'm just farming

              @Loveth
              I do go Satanic, but that would usually be my 6th item to complete as i'm totally fine with playing with a domi or even a morbid mask til late game

              whatever it takes

                My ideal lategame build is travels/diffusal/skadi/manta or butterfly/ abyssal/ satanic

                plz do

                  lifesteal will become meta on pl as well i think, since there are almost no orb effects anymore. wonder if u turn on mom, do ur illusions also get increased as/ms?

                  Miku Plays

                    inb4 armlet PL

                    Pilot

                      @Hush hush: No they don't

                      @OP: Wouldn't vlads be great as well? Aura damage + armor is pretty good for split pushing or even team fighting

                      Blackwolf

                        nope?? lol

                        lancer just pretty much kill amyone alone like some jugg - diffusal does way more dps, illusions spawn faster.

                        hero cant rat now; illusions aint tanky nor last long. He cant lategame carry lile before. He is modgane powerhouse manfighter now...

                        Blackwolf

                          vlads is bad as it doesnt benefit illusions apart carryi g the aura.

                          sata / mom imo is better as sata gives stats, mom gives more for main lancer

                          playinginursockdrawer mm soc

                            The problem with MoM is that when you activate it, you get a red glow around your hands. However, illusions don't get that graphical effect, which removes PL's only ability to "tank" through confusion.

                            whatever it takes

                              @Pilot: I don't see vlads as an item that would be core on PL, as vlads generally slows down your item progression, just as it does on anti-mage. but in some situations, it can work.

                              bibi

                                PL isnt really a "manfighter" because hes never alone, he summons mass illusions to deceive the ennemies. I think building tanky item is wrong and samage+evasion is the way to go on him.

                                tread > diffu > manta/s&y > basher/mkb > bkb(if theres a shaker/aoe)/buter then depending on this point if you need more "manfight" or survivability go skadi/satanic but most of the time at ths point you won or lost.

                                Rain

                                  He duznt rat anymore, but hes both a mid game as well as late game carry. Late game pl is still formidable, capable of wiping out the entire enemy team like a spec or medusa. Diffusal=>manta=>butterfly=>skadi=>satanic=>abyssal (keep diff if medu on opposing team, sell manta instead)