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General Discussionwhy do ppl go euls first item on QOP nowdays?

why do ppl go euls first item on QOP nowdays? in General Discussion
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    ^ why? Orchid seems to be less and less mainstream and honestly i understand its not doin shit anyway. Why is storm rollin so hard mid and he keeps using orchid like a core item? i mean ofc he was good but know seems like he is on another lvl. Back then when a storm QOP were matched it was all about the orchid timing usually the 1 who finishes it first gets the other...but know storm just doesnt care >.>.

    Some insight would be gr8, and id like to have some detailed opinions not just "its the metagame" im aware of that :D.

    Cheers.

    PS: Ill rly shoot myself if i drop under 4k QQ.

    TripleSteal-

      it disables silence, gives mana regen, dodges shittons of stuns, and on top of that you can survive untill your blink is off cd if you overextend.

      jus chillen

        it was always good on qop, especially against silences and projectiles

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          @TripleSteal Well yea i know that but still in 8 out of 10 games qop would go first orchid and usually after makin orchid ppl dont tend to bother with euls anymore. This has changed drastically like no1 makes orchid anymore or even those that go for orchid fail miserably, i ahve a feelin that volvo knew that this was commin so they gave her the pure dmg ult to compensate.

          Storm and Qop r exactly the same (qop has been buffed actually) how can it be that she cant win mid anymore against a storm? i know storm has way higher armor, hp, and str gain, but this was the case even before this patch, and back then storm was kind of food for qop mid, patch came qop got buffed and shit flew off the window....

          am i missing smth???

          TripleSteal-

            meta change? orchid is good for early pickoffs and is kind of useless against 5-manning enemy team, which became very common in 6.84.

            TripleSteal-

              dunno about ss-qop matchup, it still feels like early on qop>ss,mand in lategame ss>qop.

              Look at me, Hector.

                because euls is a broken item, during dota wc3 tournaments, you weren't allowed to have more than 3 euls per team or something like that

                Grasshopper

                  ^ Euls named most op Scepter by his own name. So selfish :D

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                    @wave if thats the case (which i highly doubt it) in wc3 tournaments u werent allowed to have more than 2 guinsoo's aswell, and the scythe aint broken. my question was why all of a sudden theres an euls spam while a couple of months before it was almost nonexistent, or very situational.

                    @Grasshopper Thats what guinsoo did so aswell xD

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                      wave I don't think that was the case and even if it was, it was probably because you could cast it on allies in the past.

                      TripleSteal-

                        ^exactly

                        Look at me, Hector.

                          it was same after the nerf, amount of hexes were also banned

                          WooT

                            Euls is one of the best Escape, Gank, Anti gank and etc itens.

                            Now the mana cast seems balanced, but still a godly item.

                            Anyway, I remember when it was an item to compose Guinso and you could cast in any hero, that was overpowered.

                            гриндр

                              I think u only get it as first item if ur behind as QoP. To win lane as Storm vs QoP u need to outplay her. Match up heavily favors QoP.

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