General DiscussionPlaying with bad draft.

Yup, you lost when PA picked PA. PA is a garbage hero and ez to counter.

Would have helped if the Lion helped you with wards and sents.

And they did not have a '5 core setup' as you claim.

They have plenty of early and late game combined.

The Centaur was solo buying wards, you and your team got outplayed.

Not much you can do there.

Just like this game.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2792907448

It was not in our favor if it reached late.

We had to push as fast as possible and keep pressure. I won't say names, but I will say someone was not with us and the rest of us that were together realized that it was 4 v 5 and had it been 5 v 5 we would have been fine. Around 25 minute mark we started falling off and ultimately lost.

hello?

That 5 rating exxx deee

so it's unwinnable then? :(

axe and centa dual off vs me and pl.
lc and ls are jungling
mid pa vs od
lion vs clinkz.

yea we're screwed.

PA is fine, PL is garbage, that's where you lost, even though he had best stats, I don't think he's an effective hero, especially vs a cent and axe. And he built vanguard and s&y? Over a manta and a vlads? Also PA went vanguard, one of them should've gone vlads. PA got a 34 min bkb and game was over at 35.

They have an incredibly trash lineup, idk how you lost

Hmmm. Tbh i tried to ask lion to roam and lc to go offlane (as nice as possible), but you know "i know the best" attitude beat my attempt.

LC got blink min 15, only had talon and treads up to that point.

PA got astralled often and i remember she goes back and forth to regen up.

PL got smacked by 2 tanky ass heroes and i had to save him many times.

Even if we managed to dispatch 3 of their heroes, a single call + bm, sanity eclipse and we're wiped.

That's not a favorable line up for you dispite them not having a standard "support roll" filled, clearly the centaur went position 5.

Also double mech, no vhlads, no blink or euls/force staff on your team would make any engagement rough with their double blink and stampede with life stealer hitching a ride.

You probably blind picked omni first or second because your genius carries didn't want to be counterpicked or some retard crap like that... But that is a game I would grab enigma and let pure damage go to town.

It happens, our mid last night wanted to pick next to last and took sniper with the enemy team already rocking slark, pa, and spirit breaker. He had a rough game...