General DiscussionNot a 1k meepo

Looks like an ordinary meepo. A booster would be like that at 20 mins and end the game

Why do 1k players love getting heart of tarrasque so much?

Cuz they suck at positioning and general knowledge

Because of the way fights happen heart is incredibly good lol

I don't think this is some 7k meepo I wud say he is 2-3k
And it's meepo of all heroes

The nature of the hero is to seem op when ahead. Maybe a 3k meepo is possible

at best 3-4k or just got lucky, this is what a boosted meepo acc looks like

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/280068636

Game was pretty easy for meepo no one bought a bkb or lockdown and he's prob a spammer

he would've finished in 20mins if he was decent. like pooper says, he's just learnt the hero and is spamming it.

his last hits are also 50% too low for 40mins.

We fucking had no one who cud survive hex duration
I forgot meepo root is actually good against ember now

ps i think you should've built more aggressively on ember - if you'd spent the linkens money on daedalus/2nd bf you could've defended highground and then built linkens.

I played against a 5k meepo smurf and a 4k one
Distinct difference

Dude
I die repeatedly to hex if I build aggressively I can't split push

This is a real meepo booster
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3192639814 Promised us to end the game at 20min
This necro is also a booster
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3192699762

Linkens on ember is good. Esp when they have something that can disable from fog

I would also say like cuki said. Mid 2k is the lowest for this kind of guy

you're not supposed to be split-pushing as ember vs meepo. the matchup is a race between meepo taking rax and you having enough damage to stop him breaking highground. linkens is a great item for a ratting ember (although not so great when they wil pop it every few seconds with track...) but that's not why you pick ember into meepo.

if you can get either a double daed+bf or double bf+daed before you lose a t3, you have won and then you can seal the victory with a linkens.

if we are posting boosters - this mid-brood was one too...

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3260447405

he had a 115 prediction win streak..

bfury helped him so much this game: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3308485106

bfury is trash against meepo, veil/radi/octa is the way to go.

yeah, we got it first time cuckie, you can rek noobs with meepo.

that's not the point, the point is your terrible ideas about the game in low mmr, ex bfury rush against meepo.

you take 14+ min to finish that bfury, that is enough time for meepo to get 3x your networth and just walk down the lane..

^ totally agree. Meepo usually got his blink at min 10 after dlance and snowball from there though

as opposed to your 14min veil/radi/octa?

anyway, they were on equal net worth/level 20mins in, at which point ember stopped building damage to synergise with his bf and spent the next 20mins building blink+linkens. if you have gotten the bf, you need damage to go with it - linkens before Daedalus was a mistake.

feel free to argue whether he should go magic or physical damage ember but naked bf for damage is the worst of both worlds.

veil costs 2k gold, an average ember gets that at like 10-11 min.

that is an item that lets you fight very rapidly and reliably, that's something you don't get with a bfury.

while bfury needs other items to be able to fight, basically every ember after getting a bfury has to go farm another item while veil gets to fight whenever necessary and does it quite reliably.

There's nothing to argue here about, physical is retarded

Lemme do the math
Veil
After reduction
300(chain)+180(3sec flameguard)+300(lv1 triple remnant)=780 damage not counting rightclick damage and more than 3sec flame guard and talent
Meanwhile no veil=780*3/4=585
Meepo only had 1.4k hp on min 15.
Extra 200 damage ++ is huge for ember
Bf adds about the same damage as well so use your brain and which worth better

that's not how it's calculated, it's 780*1.25*0.75=731.25 with veil

I go BF on ember because I can't play anything other than clicking circles
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Oh ups my bad. Still veil gives the same damage or more than battlefury. Plus veil gives better stats then bf. Usually i wont answer this retarded question but im bored

meepo has 35% magic resistance - its only 780*1.25*0.65 =633.75 with veil. veil only gives an extra 126.75 damage. pretty underwhelming imo.

out of interest, what would you get after veil? radiance seems a long way off and just a tickle to a meepo by the time it arrives.

Veil lowers Meepo magic resistance from 35% to 18.75%.

that is what the 1.25*0.65 factor is. 18.75% = 100% - 1.25*0.65

Cuckie got Math'd ez gg 1809>5683 memer iz jst a dijit

how much dmg does a cleave w bf do if meepo is stacked close togt?

ye i thought i shudnt go veil and magic build cuz of the extra magic resist, but now that i think abt it, having radi, octa, shivas sounds like u can actually do something to meepo
basically i was at a point where i cud kill meepo solo and did multiple times, and i think i shud have just continued that with veil.
once he got hex i just felt completely useless.

60 games 100% winrate thats actually scary

how much dmg does a cleave w bf do if meepo is stacked close togt?

I just played vs a 21-5-4 Meepo named 1k noob in a vhs game, he has almost 70% wins on the hero. Don't know if it's the same person with different accounts.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/329371946