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General Discussionvenomancer support

venomancer support in General Discussion
RIP

    is it possible?

    despair

      Yes, as pos 4, ive seen players rush mekans or veil on him, his lane is jungle but can help the sidelane any time

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        please don't

        despair

          He is 2k dude, it will work, ive seen people there play invoker or arc support there and still win..

          RIP

            well i found great success using him as support in the early game ganks when the second support had a disable

            but i guess no is a no even though there are 2 support venos in guides section

            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

              why learn to play the game properly by the meta when you can do ridiculous shit and stay low forever.

              Instab1l

                Meta is at your level ^ , 2-3 k mmr - play your best hero, or cancer heroes witch nobody knows how to deal with them at this level. ( if you just have fun and dont want to improve)

                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                  what you want to learn is the 6k++ meta, not 2-3k meta.

                  2-3k meta is retarded and it's not dota.

                  cartel

                    venomancer offlane best venomancer.......max e make their jungle your own..like brood mother but more poisonous

                    despair

                      Guys are you forgetting something really important? 2k meta is different from 5k+ meta...

                      RIP

                        i just ask. im sure there are games where even in 6k+ veno support is pickable , but it's probably too niche to bother actually learning as a hero and therefore i will not.

                        im saying that because i remember OG or some other big caliber team drafting pos 4 venomancer to deal with timbersaw offlane in example.

                        but im not gonna argue and claim that veno support is good because i did good with it, my enemy was just full retard.

                        Dire Wolf

                          I think he's fine but lack of stuns and defense means put him in an aggressive lane and his range is short so best vs Meele. His passive is a ton of dmg. Don't pick if your team lacks disables

                          Rocket

                            Saying learn 6k meta to get out of 2-3k is retarded. High level meta in any game or sport doesn't exploit weakness that are available in lower skill matches. For example, you can dive more in a gank because there is less likely to be a tp response or you can go for a greedy build because you know that the enemy won't punish it with early push/deathball. Or you can get 100% winrate with meepo because they don't know how to counter you.

                            Either way playing with a 6k meta mindset in 2k is a bad idea.

                            cartel

                              But can I play with a 2k mindset in 6k :thinking:

                              Mlada i Luda

                                is it possible? is rhasta support possible? wtf is this , you started playing dota yesterday? venomancer is a support always was. yeah he can carry in this meta , but is specifik you can carrry sometimes whith him, but yo ucan always support with venomancer.

                                Rab

                                  Everything can work in 2k
                                  Sounds like a poor man's jakiro to me tho

                                  Shou

                                    venomancer is a support always was.

                                    "WAS" is a key word here
                                    It's like saying just cuz ember used to be played as a right click hero he still is.
                                    Also u can always carry with veno, that's the whole point, he is a flex pick and super versatile, but u can't always support as veno.

                                    Altaire

                                      Wait, ember right click isn't viable anymore? I think it is still nice alternative. Stronger depush and elusive late game annoyane compared to magic damage build which use remnants for damage thus, lessen your escape ability. Magic build far stronger early game though

                                      basement :)

                                        He is viable as a support if your team already has disables.

                                        Khalilov

                                          Veno is always support

                                          Veno carry, afk jungle all time? Ill instantly report u

                                          Jacked

                                            Just believe guys

                                            Shou

                                              Veno is always support
                                              Veno carry, afk jungle all time? Ill instantly report u

                                              Ur retarded
                                              Not all cores eat space

                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                the reason that you kept playing low mmr meta instead of learning to play like a 6k+ with 6k+ meta is the reason you're still in low mmr after 3k matches my dear

                                                SoilcoW

                                                  congratulation for hitting 6k cuki huehue

                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                    i hit it with a crowbar

                                                    Story Time

                                                      Saying learn 6k meta to get out of 2-3k is retarded. High level meta in any game or sport doesn't exploit weakness that are available in lower skill matches.

                                                      rofl

                                                      DSP

                                                        what you want to learn is the 6k++ meta, not 2-3k meta.
                                                        2-3k meta is retarded and it's not dota.

                                                        Unfortunately, 2k players represent 90% of dota players while 6k few percent only. So 2/3k meta is Dota.

                                                        Bungmangler

                                                          dont play veno, dead hero

                                                          Dire Wolf

                                                            The meta isn't why 2k players are 2k. It's skill, which has nothing to do with the meta.