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General Discussionincoming madness and diffusal blade nerfs

incoming madness and diffusal blade nerfs in General Discussion
Emon

    i think it's too strong plus the pros have started abusing those cost efficient items.

    cartel

      ye

      Oldman

        Diffusal is already nerfed... Do you read patch notes ?

        Madness also has increased cooldown.

        Demigod

          ^plus armor reduction increased from 5 to 6,it's like you already have a deso/armor reduction similar to deso (although deso is 7 rather than 6 but still)

          Story Time

            lol, the OP is as slow as a turtle in his predictions :D are you even checking the updates?

            chicken spook,,,,

              nice prediction! Oh wait

              TheMaverick427

                MoM probably okay. Diffusal still too strong

                chicken spook,,,,

                  ^it's already balanced imo

                  TheMaverick427

                    Upgrading from the base components gives you 8 purge charges, +4 intelligence and the ability to burn 50 mana per attack which deal an extra 40 damage per attack (since you deal 0.8 damage per mana burnt.) All that for 700 gold.
                    Yes the extra 40 damage only applies as long as they have mana to burn but its still ridiculously strong for 700 gold. No other item in the game offers that sort of value. This is the problem with it: that if offers huge utility while being a great DPS item for cores.

                    Dire Wolf

                      I think mask is balanced, the silence is such a huge liability for so many heroes, it's a very limited use item. I love it for farming on a ton of heroes but you can't use it in fights on many. Like I see tons of void players get it and then die cus they are silenced coming out of chrono.

                      chicken spook,,,,

                        Heh it's not like void pickers in 3k know how to play the hero anyway :x

                        Riguma Borusu

                          MoM is balanced in such a way that only a few heroes can actually use it, those being Sven (all spells have longer CD than the MoM silence and you use them right away when joining a fight), Troll (doesn't care about silence too much since he axes + ults when initiating on a target, the only thing he might want to do is use ranged axes if kited, which he now can't), Luna is KINDA okay with MoM but if she's focused by physical damage she'll die fast if she doesn't have any defensive/tanky items. MoM is a liability for Jugg as much as it is for Void, since both have a defensive spell, rather than building a defensive item.

                          I mean, MoM is already nerfed hard by the introduction of silence alone, I don't think it'd be imbalanced even if it didn't reduce armor, the silence is such a pain in the ass that it's justified.

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                          meteor hammer

                            db castrange nerf, mom manacost up or cd up OR armor reduc up again OR cant buy 1 component in sideshop

                            Dire Wolf

                              I hate mask on troll, I have no idea why people get it. It's really good on luna, just don't use it when you might get focused down. Amazing for farming and dps when you run in and the end and nuke people with ult. Really good on medusa too, right after using ultimate.

                              Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                Well it's clear an item is OP if a hero who can't even make use of the main purpose of the item (manaburn) still buys the item. Purge is a very rare thing in this game and counters many, many things.

                                Pink anus

                                  Having Mask on Troll is not a choice tho. If you buy Satanic and Butterfly later on, you automatically have Mask.

                                  Dire Wolf

                                    Well ok you can have mask and just not use it I guess in fights. That would be fine, cus I usually go casual morbid mask into potential satanic later anyway. I'm not a big butterfly fan and game always ends before getting satanic. Usual build up for me is phase, aquila, morbid mask, s&y, bkb, then game often ends but if not it's either skadi to tank more/disable carries more or crystalis into bloodthorn for more dmg/cc. Mkb of course at that point if evasion counter is needed, and I will rush satanic if vs a ton of blade mails.