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General DiscussionWho’s a good hero to support with if I’m the only one who chose support?

Who’s a good hero to support with if I’m the only one who chose support? in General Discussion
Dogwater

    I dont mind playing support.but Lets say we have a jungler on our team. As is the case with pubs. Ok fine Id like some more help but ok. Id just think of it as another carry later on and in low mmr games it seems to win. what hero can I pick can make life easier for my team? And why? Id like to be able to be effective with little to no item (upgraded boots, glimmer, force wand detection..) due to buying vision/detection etc. But lets say more than one of our lanes needs help, what hero can help the lanes and not fall behind untill the jungler starts being effective? Also, what mentality should I have when supporting by myself? I like to keep team morale up but its harder when we struggle early, especially this patch. So how can I do it consistently and what should I do around the map to help us win if noy early game, at least the mid-lategame

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    Tribo

      Shadow Shaman, Lich(OP), Silencer, Bane(ExxxtraOP)

      Dogwater

        ^ thanks man, makes sense

        Tribo

          I had no time to write an essay you know...

          chicken spook,,,,

            ES and lich
            I'm also too lazy to write an essay

            Dogwater

              ^its ayt man it helped anyway. Ill try them out

              Dogwater

                Thanks anyway. Essays not needed its dotabuff forum not school haha

                Zemo-san

                  lich is insane this patch and the last one
                  I used to first pick it during battlecups and some games that I really needed wins(for battle pass points for example) and they were mostly stomps

                  I have the feeling the hero will get nerfed next patch tho, in every mmr range it has like 54+% winrate

                  arin

                    i dont think shadow shaman is a good solo support

                    or im just a bad shadow shaman player (also true)

                    Cheap Laugh Guy

                      Shaman's gonna have a hard time getting Blink if 4 other teammates are farming
                      Lich is likely the best this meta

                      Melt

                        Agree on lich
                        Ask the carry to pick a strong laner so you can be more active and leave him alone - in that case i'd go Riki probably to get those deep wards down and be relevant in teamfights with like tranquils and a bunch of wraith bands :)

                        chicken spook,,,,

                          Shaman isn't that good as a solo slave

                          Potato Marshal

                            Lich is good assuming you're not against a team that needs a lot of lockdown to kill.

                            Riguma Borusu

                              lich is pretty good cause you can choose one lane to win, or win multiple lanes if possible pretty easily and doesn't take much skill

                              es is a 4 so he's not a good solo support pick, but while bane would be, in low MMR people are really bad playing around bane on both teams, so it's a hit or a miss in general

                              I would say your default support pick should be lich, unless you need some specific utility, warlock can also be okay, but he's way greedier than lich and doesn't have an ability to provide for himself (which can be detrimental if you are really really poor)

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                              Melt

                                Warlock is too static for solo sup
                                Es is not a real 4 imo, more like 4.5 and never gets his blink in a Bad game when he buys all the wards...
                                Mobility is most important in that scenario imo

                                pakulkill

                                  Shaman is my favorite, sackles makes my teamate lifes easier
                                  Thus i also likes to paly Zeus as sup with assist above 30

                                  CMNT

                                    ES is useless without a blink, He is not a 5

                                    Tribo

                                      What the actual fuck
                                      Zeus as a support?
                                      Are You For Real?

                                      Tribo

                                        988 mmr kkkkkk