General DiscussionWinter wyvern core

its bad

OP, please try it yourself first and then post

because it's shit

The most I've seen is iceiceice on offlane wyvern
Safelane core wyvern doesn't scale well enough to do what u want it to do

@Story time
Old ass game but
Tried it when meepo was feeding, jugg not sure how-to play his hero and we had Midland free.
They would have won if not for crazy range on WW Q ability with a dragon lance. Very strong against high STR heroes. Just need someone to "clean up" since damage is high but can't finish kill when ulti on CD. Plus takes while to get all the items up and running but his W is strong and ulti is Good so not useless in mid game.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3366585676

PS: Doom and ES where on point all game. So it ended up being a win.

why? because you have a spell that gives you high range and lower bat with insane downtime? just play sniper then.

That's because wyvern offlane is better and dumpsters everyone but is so op nobody wants you to know about it.
My win rate with her is obviously all the evidence you need.

@aggressive sniper is shit though, sniper doesn't have a good nuke, a heal and a counter initiation ulti. With a ranged damage that does % dmg over time. Rapes axe/sven/sb.

you NEED aghs at the minimum and probably 2-3 more items to start doing meaningful damage, because hitting for 8 seconds every 20 seconds is simply not enough.

Also you definitely don't need aghs by the way.

Look my recent game. But I played him on solo offlane. Pretty good I must say :)

@aggressive sniper is shit though, sniper doesn't have a good nuke, a heal and a counter initiation ulti. With a ranged damage that does % dmg over time. Rapes axe/sven/sb.

and ww doesnt have 3 2k range aoe control/farm spells, 100 as ms slow on attack, permament 400 range and 3k range bkb piercing nuke

checkmate atheists

i mean to try to play several games, one observation is no observation

Point is Sniper is STILL shit compared to WW. I lose everygame there is a sniper on the team. enemy ALWAYS picks a SB right after.

ALWAYS = once in evelen games over the last 3 months?

I did ww mid couple games and yeah offlane is her position or 4,5.Not need agh at all safelane is rly bad idea,mid can work in certain strategies and lineups,rly fun hero to play try her on mid insted of safelane,let safe your am or sven and win game together