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General Discussionwhy lich is (not) broken ?

why lich is (not) broken ? in General Discussion
Apisal

    i am 3k mmr and i dont play much against lich

    and when i do it feels as normal as all patches

    what is the big thing that ppl hate about lich this patch ?

    i need some explanation [and maybe about viper too if you can plz :) ]

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    Tribo

      Lich can use 3rd on ranged creeps and deny you some decisive XP which affects laning phase(which is now really important compared to old patches)
      Viper is a beast. Max corrozive skill and lane is instantly won(a.k.a green cancer)

      Cappa

        Nout wrong with Lich. Perfectly fine the way he is. Very effective support hero.

        UnSure

          From what i noticed in my low tier
          Hes easy to play
          He denys xp which helps to win his lane
          He has sustained haras
          Hes w does well in a tier where people prefer right click carries and don't get bkb
          Hes ult is good vs low mmr players.

          Apisal

            ok so guys
            i did play lich last game with wrath king against solo wind ranger
            and the lane was shit

            i gave wk free exp
            and pulled and denied the ranged creep and harassed as much as i can
            but lich is bad at harassing
            it's wasn't a strong lane
            actually it was shit
            if i picked shadow shaman we would won it 10/10
            so i don't understand how he is strong
            he lack disables and dmg so much at early game
            and his ulti depends on the enemy being grouped up (which don't happen often)

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            Apisal

              so lich is shit in 3k mmr (that's why no one play him)
              gg wp

              meteor hammer

                ice armor and ruining 1 lane for enemy + hes always overleveled from e and does a shitton of damage. u cant catch him coz he has 450 ms somehow and when u hit him ur slowed 30%

                Oldman

                  I remember time, when lich was overbuffed for 1 week and you could eat creep every wave. lul

                  @₲eԓerâƪ Λρίŝαl ┤❖├

                  Because Lich is a better offlaner, braindead and very effective.

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                  BenaoLifedancer

                    I don't like lich either. I hate skilling up frost armor but it is what you should be doing if you want to win the game. Keep the deny shit at level 3, max nova first gg wp. But boring to play

                    Apisal

                      JDF8
                      you talk like if lich reach lvl 6 in 4 min
                      slow with no dmg = uselss
                      unless you get good early game carry with lich
                      his attack dmg is 47 which is shit for harrasing
                      on top of that you should max the e and 1 lvl on the q
                      which is(the q) 50 magic dmg (really great nuke...)

                      Lex
                      i agree that lich would be a great duel offlane ( i should have thought of that :P)

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                      Talker

                        I randomed lich once and as we received in AR 2 supports and jungler, I went solo offlane. I was lvl 10 when their carry was lvl 6 and support lvl 3.

                        Insane crippling power

                        Apisal

                          ya
                          i think lich fit to be an offlaner more than a safe lane support
                          but being solo is bad he can be easily killed
                          so duel offlane better imo

                          meteor hammer

                            ya thats why lich sucks and isnt meta or anything

                            Cappa

                              He's in the top 10 for win percentage of the meta actually!

                              meteor hammer

                                He's in the top 10 for win percentage of the meta actually!

                                nah, didn't you hear? he sucks

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                                Stentorian

                                  Lich is quite passive, and better in defensive scenarios.

                                  If you're trying to force fights, odds are your chain frost won't bounce because enemies are prepared and will try to evade the bounces.

                                  If enemies dive you team, you can just tp to the lane and throw a good chain frost and boom you got a triple kill.

                                  Lich offlane is also quite good.

                                  meteor hammer

                                    duo off

                                    Shou

                                      frost blast doesnt do 50 dmg
                                      the main target takes 50 + the aoe dmg

                                      Mode : TOPSON

                                        Im just gonna download 7k lich gameplay and see if he op or not

                                        Shou

                                          you talk like if lich reach lvl 6 in 4 min

                                          he can easily be 2 levels ahead of u by 5 min

                                          Cheap Laugh Guy

                                            Is that a NGE reference?!

                                            RIP

                                              imagine you are playing an exp-dependant carry such as slark. you have a clueless supportwho is just trying to harass the offlaner and share teh exp. enemy lich denies 2/3 of range creeps.

                                              figure the rest out for yourself man.

                                              chicken spook,,,,

                                                duo off

                                                Chill

                                                  lich trashes whatever lane he is in