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General Discussionyea whats up with MM?

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Jacked

    legend 4 in a divine 5 game.

    i would not have realised something was wrong if he did not use dust and sentries on a broodmother.

    and the other team is all divine 5

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    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

      what you talkin bout?

      CoL.Limmp

        Wait how is jacked legend 4 can anyone enlighten me

        Lokieleven

          There have been divine 3’s in divine 5 games. And not just normal divine 5 players, top of the leaderboard. Matchmaking sucks atm.
          I had a archon 3 in my game while everybody else was legend 2 or above

          주 롄양

            dude they maybe jst calibrate from their party mmr or vice versa

            <darth>

              Those divine players had high solo mmr but low party mmr I am also matched with archon 5 because they have high party mmr but low solo mmr (I'm just a crusader shitstain).

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              <darth>

                The medal displayed corresponds to the mmr which is higher solo/party (except for acient and divine).

                Anomaluna

                  Not entirely related question: Do rankings only start for Divine 5+ players or all Divine players? If so, how do you know the difference between Divine 5 and Divine 5+?

                  Seoulmate

                    Not entirely related question: Do rankings only start for Divine 5+ players or all Divine players? If so, how do you know the difference between Divine 5 and Divine 5+?

                    Only Divine 5 players get rankings

                    Big Dogg

                      @positive Player, I have a higher solo MMR, but I calibrated my Party medal first. My account still displays my Crusader 5 (2.0k party calibration). I don't think it displays highest, I think it displays the first calibrated.

                      Jacked

                        yea the whole medal system is just confusing because u can no longer tell who's the highest or what the avg is.

                        1) u only see the highest medal.
                        2) if u drop mmr u retain highest medal
                        3) no distinguishing of party or solo mmr.

                        Jacked

                          mr. legend 1 star, why cant i be legend 4?

                          Potato Marshal

                            I've played with people in divine, and even as low as archon, sometimes even in the same match. I assume it has something to do with party MMR factoring in to your medal.

                            Hupples

                              It's because the other day Arteezy took over an hour to find a game on his smurf. :facepalm:

                              Jacked

                                @cuki it was a divine 5 game all around except for one legend 4 in the game who was using sentries and dust against a broodmother. lmao.

                                yea maybe it's party mmr.

                                <darth>

                                  @Big Dogg I have around 15 accounts (not mine) that verify the medal displayed corresponds to the higher mmr and not first calibrated.

                                  紅蓮華

                                    It takes whatever medal that is first calibrated (party calibration restricted to Legend 5), and takes on the highest medal from either solo or party. So in theory, seeing Legends in Divine tier games simply means they have yet to calibrate their solo, and if you are seeing Ancients/Divines in your regular Legend solo queues.... I guess that fella had a really really huge losing streak.

                                    Jacked

                                      gettimg high skill avg games. my soul dies slowly everytime

                                      Jacked

                                        whats up with MM. valve is hiding behind medals to make mm more imbalanced. that's what.

                                        ☻

                                          its dead bro, even this cookie guy cant play on main account (poor 4kda on arc) but talking about some useless stuff like you can win any game solo
                                          the only way to play dota now is find premades - 5man stack at best

                                          紅蓮華

                                            ^But isn't that the real way to play dotos since wc3.

                                            Friendly player

                                              I had legend 5 in my game when i was archon. 10 ranks difference GJ valve

                                              fx

                                                3 legend 2 archon on enemy team while im the only legend in the team while my teammate is full of archon(low archon too)

                                                Zenoth

                                                  it literally shows your party medal if you calibrate party first

                                                  why are people so retarded as not to read the fucking explanation of the medal system

                                                  i calibrated party first myself and when finally got around to solo was the only legend 4 in a game with 9 divine 5s, and my teammates has no issues giving me core role because they actually read the explanation unlike all the retards who keep complaining

                                                  Jacked

                                                    ^ the problem is it is confusing. Why are they showing party mmr medal (if solo is lower or uncalibrAted) in solo ranked games ?

                                                    How do you determine true mmr of the individual's? And then people are getting matched with legend 5s all around but the game is high skill average possibly because the legend 5s are all 4k party but Low 3k shits.

                                                    Now this all wouldn't be a problem if people weren't using their medals to claim superiority and core roles. The same could be said in your case where your teammates would refuse to give you core because you are legend in a divine game. But you in fact may have been the highest.

                                                    Zenoth

                                                      How is it confusing when everything is explained in the blogpost?

                                                      "Your performance in both Party and Solo games is considered when evaluating your skill and determining when your Medal gets upgraded, with Solo games having a bigger impact. In order for players to achieve either the Ancient or Divine Medals, only Solo-game performance is considered."

                                                      Its pretty clear, players only have one medal.

                                                      Also im pretty sure 90+% of players i meet have higher solo than party

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                                                      Snu

                                                        The biggest question is why someone buying dust and sentries against Broodmother, or can she go invis in web again?
                                                        Also, yeah, why is Jacked legend 4? God, the whole universe must be coming apart at the seams.

                                                        Zenoth

                                                          Habit/didnt read patch notes? Just like all the people complaining about medals when they would have understood if they read the blog post