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General DiscussionIs playing your role correctly actually good ?

Is playing your role correctly actually good ? in General Discussion
Kokomo

    I played match as hard support now and while my lane was ok, offlane lost because opponents hard support played ogre magi instead and they overpowered them.

    In new update said it was to encourage people in lower ranks to play support yet I wonder if its actually worth it.

    bonk

      if u think ure playing ur role correctly while having sub 50% winrate u are dellusional

      MuLLiPullervO

        Problem is how people usually stop playing when they play pos 4-5 in low tier

        They afk pretty much and avoid farming etc.

        Kokomo

          @inx4c hard supports dont have much influence on game, and in lower ranks where carries arent so efficient in their farming its is better to just play core.
          i could play core with support hero yet then it wouldnt be hard support.

          Kokomo

            @MuLLiPullervO well when i try to last hit creeps other players get mad at me. meanwhile they miss most of their last hits

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            algodz

              Are you just feeding on this account? What's happening here. If not just play core

              Malaria

                Actually cores in low brackets are so bad, they dont know what Bkb is. Support is broken in lower bracket. Supports purpose is to spam spells, disables, harass. Carry in lower brackets dont know when to get Bkb/defensive items. Get a support with strong teamfight spells, EZ wins.

                Indra

                  yea it make me an ancient now

                  former crusadar hahahaha

                  DemonicTrashcan

                    No one has much influence on a game at low ranks, everyone sucks so it's just a matter of waiting until the economies rise and someone has enough stats to click on people harder than the other team.

                    The irony in the "support is weak at low ranks" players' mindset is that it creates a scenario where it's inherently untrue. Noobs suck at MOBA: they find out the only way they can contribute to a game is if they have high stats from gold and can click on people for high damage, so now they're all playing core.

                    You have a ton of unskilled players playing heroes who need to time come online- guess what role naturally counters such heroes? Supports, as they have the CC to control them and the early game power to dictate the pace of the game to shut down the enemy cores/end it before they can come online.

                    MVP smurf

                      yea..
                      Well..

                      UR A CXNT

                      hi

                        play venge carry/mid until you're 3k OK?

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                        Zenatius

                          hard supports dont have much influence on game, and in lower ranks where carries arent so efficient in their farming its is better to just play core.

                          Support is all about making most impact with least amount of gold. If you cannot do it, don't play supports.

                          Also, if your skill is better than the ones in your bracket, you will get >50% win rate, regardless of roles u playing at. For support, it does not lose you game when your opponent cores is better than your team's cores, you still can win if you manage to cover the skill gap by creating the advantageous environment for your cores.

                          Cale Henituse

                            If u are hard-bent on the mindset that supports have no impact in the game then you might as well give up on playing the role. I honestly think supports make a lot of play happen especially on early to mid game. Maybe start playing pos 4, there's a lot of freedom in that role, not exactly a core but can buy core items, a support but don't have to bu wards all the time, in short, the most pressure-free role.

                            Greta Thunberg

                              whenever the retard core in your team decide that playing a non tanky hero against techis i can just feel the future of the lane and will go jungle wk instead. works like 70% of the times.

                              YasiSag

                                Support is the best role to player in lower MMR because:
                                1.no one buy BKB or even if they do they don’t use it properly!
                                2.no buy ward/detection so you can counter those pesky invisible heroes like Riki/Bounty hunter.
                                3.you can dictate the pace of the game ...
                                As a proof, a friend of mine which was Crusader was nagging that his teammates are bad so I played on his account and picked pos 5 Lion and I won like 6-8games IN A ROW! If you play your role good enough you will have 50%+ win rate!

                                One True Merchant

                                  You're not playing hard support, far from it. Dazzle isn't a good pos 5 too.
                                  In low MMR, you wanna play support heroes that kill, such as Witch Doctor, Ancient Apparition, Shadow Shaman and Lion.
                                  Diehard supports like Ogre Magi, Clockwerk, Undying, Nyx are easier to play too.
                                  Try some of these heroes I mentioned, kills in low MMR can tilt your enemy and boost your allies' morale.

                                  too car goo link

                                    Since when hard support didn't have much influence? Single glimpse or well-timed kinetic field + static storm could win you teamfight (or even the game), good disruption will save your cores from being dead instead, glimmer magic resistance + invisibility is a lifesaver, force staff your caught up core, setup observer wards for juicy RP, give vision in teamfight for better decision, fatal bond being a win teamfight ticket, fireblast your enemy core to oblivion, etc etc

                                    My impact as pos 5 support is way higher than when I play core lmao