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Value of time in dota? in General Discussion
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    People doesnt seem to understand that 1k gold today is worth so much more than 1k half an hour later. Should valve inflate ward pricing?
    Like i see so many supports float 2250 gold for a blink dagger, yet they die like 5-7 times before they are getting the dagger.
    Like can u stop this behavior? Periodic gold & creep gold is unreliable so you are most likely ending up paying like 3k gold for the dagger u get once all towers is gone and u realise that blink dagger is bad cuz the enemies are just rushing onto you rather you initiating on them.
    99% of the times you are better off making a glimmer cape or force staff. Your role as support in dota is to protect your core and a force staff can help them out too!
    Same goes for you assholes playing necrophos mid going 2 null talismans -> any boots except greaves -> radiance
    You float fucking 3.8k gold for the sacred relic you have no survivability and once you hit off the radiance u still really dont have any survivability uyou are just a bad mid player relying on other teammates to win the gaame 4vs5 while u afk jungle lose your tower and choose not to play the game.

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      the warding system isnt working out either u get mid players abusing the 0 gold obs pricing by sometimes getting even 2 wards mid while not fucking paying the 75 gold for a sentry to make sure it doesnt get dewarded. warding system needs a change, perhaps player locked ward distribution, free sentry wards with longer restock cooldown im up to anything else but how the system is working currently

      Cancer Malaria

        change the whole game if you want. players doing bad shit will never stop existing

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          Do you agree with me or not? Also i seriously advocate support getting kills on lane because they should die more often than the carry they dont lose reliable gold

          Oldman

            Necro Radiance is very strong IF you hit a good timing on it. With the new slow meta DYING while saving for a big item is very bad. Dying twice can result in gg.

            Its a lean towards the old meta. Core players having 300 gpm on the losing team is on daily basis now. Making big items is much more risky and IF u fail, it will result in you having no real impact on the game. You can rush big item if you have super easy time an you know you wont get punished.

            It especially seen on pos 4 like Shaker that is trying to finish his blink dagger till 40 min mark. Just pick heros that dont need much items to be a threat and its easy to make space with them. Huge example is Elder Titan. I dunno why people dont play him. He is super strong without any items.

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              yes, an early necro radiance is strong but its a strong if, u have to cosinder not only timing, that other lanes doing just fine without you on the field. however i feel pos 1/3 role more to create space for carry rather than the other way around. not saying radi first item on a necro pos 2 is bad, ur role is different. just liek with lion i feel force staff so much better on shaker or glimmer cape first item.

              Oldman

                Well it all depends on draft and skill bracket. On higher brackets people usually tend to farm more and make less risky plays. So usually you have 2 farming core just because they can. But they farm super fast comparing to lower brackets. So such Necro will come on-line 15-20 min mark.

                When it comes to that space creating I guess its pretty standard for pos 2-4 to do that right ? We are not inventing anything new in this matter. Yet many people forget to do that.

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                  what hgiher bracket utalkin about? i get necrophos player unwilling to tp to tower when whol team is diving tier 1 and he for some oddly reason still choose to skill the schyte but not using until 20m+

                  Oldman

                    On Legend if you are trying to rely on your teammates, you should reconsider your goals. Like what is your goal ? Grind mmr ? Then get better and forget about things you dont have any power on.

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                      really depends on what u mean by relying on teammates. like ven up to leaderboards u can probably go carry builds on supports if you are skilled enough.