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General Discussion33 tp scrolls used against me in 3k Bloodseeker game.

33 tp scrolls used against me in 3k Bloodseeker game. in General Discussion
Flyingpigs

    Wait what? I thought ure smart. How does knowing how to build a plane has anything to do with a requirement to knowing how to fly a plane. I can drive a car like most ppl do but I don't even know how to build one.

    It's a shitty comparison.

    Look at me, Hector.

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      Look at me, Hector.

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        Flyingpigs

          He did say never fly one as in never pilot one hahaa

          Look at me, Hector.

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            Look at me, Hector.

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              Look at me, Hector.

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                Look at me, Hector.

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                    Dank memes wave

                    Dire Wolf

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliers_%28book%29

                      10,000 hours of practice, the correct way. That's what it takes boys! I'm only at around 1000 so maybe 10 years from now I'll be pro.

                      The caveat is the correct way part though, I don't watch my replays.

                      Look at me, Hector.

                        ive read his book and couldn't stop laughing because i knew a couple of ADHD homosexualists since childhood who were all born in january and february

                        Hassan

                          Your statements are incorrect and you don't accept any other view than your own so that's why you feel like people are "chopping up" your statements.

                          "For that you need to practice coordination, and specific things. For that you need a plan, and the plan should come from someone excellent at planning - this is unlikely to be the same person who is excellent at executing the plan."

                          Why don't all teams have some strategian then that does what you say? Because you're wrong. Don't come and say that the captain fills that role because the captain can surely execute his own strategies otherwise he wouldn't be a member of the team, he would just be the strategian like you said.

                          wraithseeker

                            All I know is you should stop being stubborn with your flawed views. Nobody gives a fuck about theories.

                            Your page has shown that your theories and analysis has not shown any improvement in your gameplay, that is more than enough evidence that everyone is against you. If you were half-decent nobody would be shooting you down.

                            TLDR: RESULTS > Theories.

                            Come and talk with me about your arguments when you have reached >5k mmr

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                            Look at me, Hector.

                              wow 5k r u mmr god player?

                              sano

                                >if you're good at dota it's because god has given you natural talent

                                BUT GOD DOESNT EXIST checkmate scrubs

                                Mokujin

                                  relentless is a good troll though

                                  npc
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                                    THICC BABY SHUM

                                      Wave work on ur Photoshop plz

                                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                        Top kek.

                                        THICC BABY SHUM

                                          meme generator not that good ;D

                                          King of Low Prio

                                            we are gunna make relentless quit dota again

                                            Born

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                                                Fuck i lost with bs :(

                                                waku waku

                                                  you just had to buy mask of madness and use it with bloodrage to kill them before they teleport

                                                  casual gamer

                                                    aka the die in 1 hit strat

                                                    Quick maffs

                                                      Oh, chill, damage wasnt the problem.

                                                      The problem was when i gave legion 1k gold because i attacked her twice when she had blademail on and i had bloodrage on.

                                                      All my hp, 2 hits

                                                      Fuck this game

                                                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                        Blademail is twice as effective against BS actually because he deals more damage to you so takes more damage from the Blademail which will get amplified by Bloodrage (or it won't?)

                                                        Filthy

                                                          one day I will read all this maybe.

                                                          Na`Vi.Miracle-

                                                            @Lizard Hitler

                                                            I think bloodrage doesn't directly affect blademail at all now after 6.83

                                                            Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                              bloodseeker hasn't seen winrates as good as when they changed his spells. he was doing 15-25 mintue treads/radiance. Nowadays it's not as good as back when he had 2 buttons to click.

                                                              Androgynous

                                                                @MFW
                                                                if bloodseeker is bloodraged you only get 40% more damage rather than 96% more damage (1.4 x 1.4), because if he's bloodraged, he still takes 40% more damage (and therefore loses 40% more HP), but that damage is not further amplified.

                                                                if the target is bloodraged, they deal 40% more damage, so bloodseeker takes more damage, and the blade mail damage is then amplified, because it's being amplified by the target, not by bloodseeker, which results in 96% more damage, basically double

                                                                e.g. if bloodseeker is raged and gets brain sapped by bane (300 pure), he takes 40% more damage for 420 damage, and the blade mail returns 420 damage back, but that 420 isn't further amplified by bloodrage because BM can't be amplified by it's source (for lack of a better way of wording it)

                                                                if bane is bloodraged, then he does 40% more damage, which results in him dealing 420 damage to bloodseeker, the bloodseeker returns that 420 damage which is then amplified by 40% when it returns to bane for 588 damage.

                                                                if both are bloodraged then you get 1.4^3 more damage, or 274% damage (almost triple). previously it was 1.4^4 which was 384% (almost quadruple)

                                                                Na`Vi.Miracle-

                                                                  "if bane is bloodraged, then he does 40% more damage, which results in him dealing 420 damage to bloodseeker, the bloodseeker returns that 420 damage which is then amplified by 40% when it returns to bane for 588 damage."

                                                                  That doesn't sound right
                                                                  Deal 40% more damage so take 40% more blademail damage. That part sounds normal
                                                                  But bloodrage "Does not amplify outgoing damage when it has the "no-reflection" flag" (blademail)

                                                                  @~Uguu
                                                                  yeah old BS was mostly better. Perma silence that couldn't be dispelled, 40% heal at max rank, perma double damage, level 1 rupture actually hurt
                                                                  New bs is just a Thirst machine. Even Panterra(streamer) agrees new bs isn't as powerful as the old one

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                                                                    Andro is right

                                                                    ONLY 40 % more damage

                                                                    only

                                                                    only 2 hits

                                                                    fuck my life

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                                                                      I am sorry new BS is borderline OP

                                                                      I killed medussa at lvl 5 by autoattacking, what kind of hero can do that mid ? seriously

                                                                      Androgynous

                                                                        well it is right, but you're welcome to test it if you think I'm wrong.

                                                                        previously there were 4 factors that affect blade mail's damage.
                                                                        bloodrage increases damage received of the target
                                                                        bloodrage increases damage dealt of the target

                                                                        bloodrage increasing bloodseeker's damage dealt
                                                                        and bloodrage increasing bloodseeker's damage received.

                                                                        the change to blade mail is that it is not increased by bloodseeker increasing his own damage. blade mail damage, so if you take 400 pure damage, blade mail deals 400 pure damage. the damage that is dealt and the damage that the enemy receives are two different things in the same way that a physical attack that deals 200 damage doesn't necessarily mean the target receives 200 damage due to armour.

                                                                        if bane is bloodraged, then his outgoing damage of brain sap is increased. this increases the amount of HP removed from bloodseeker's HP pool, therefore increasing the amount of damage that blade mail deals, because it's only based on the amount of HP lost. using the same example, a bloodraged brain sap deals 420 damage to the bloodseeker, and the blade mail deals 420 damage to the bane. bane receives 40% more damage due to bloodrage, so that 420 damage is amplified to 588.

                                                                        previously it would multiply the HP lost by 1.4 (HP loss was already increased by 1.4 since bloodseeker took more damage), basically meaning that blade mail + bloodrage did more damage than the actual spell itself since bloodseekers tend to cast bloodrage on themselves before theye go in to avoid the extra cast time.

                                                                        TL;DR damage dealt and damage received are two different things.

                                                                        Joller

                                                                          better make sampaon quit dota

                                                                          BlackXargon

                                                                            Just played Bloodseeker

                                                                            WIN game, MMR up to 4443
                                                                            Match Id: 1528609741
                                                                            K-D-A: 10-8-16
                                                                            GPM: 445
                                                                            XPM: 455
                                                                            Item Builds: PMS, Treads, Wand, Blade Mail, BKB, Force Staff, Assault Cuirass

                                                                            Blade Mail, BKB, and Force Staff are pretty much core to me.
                                                                            Now, why did I build AC? Because I am playing against a TA and SF.

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                                                                            Androgynous

                                                                              what do people go as first item on BS? SNY? drum? blade mail?

                                                                              jus chillen

                                                                                blademail into sny

                                                                                sano

                                                                                  I played Seeker yesterday, tried the euls build
                                                                                  Treads - bracer - euls - sny

                                                                                  Got 17 kills in 15 minutes
                                                                                  Lost because it was literally 1v5 and seeker is terrible past min 35

                                                                                  Also don't make skadi on seeker it's fucking trash, idk what I was thinking, after sny go for bkb/butterfly/abyssal

                                                                                  Andy

                                                                                    Anyone else having troubles to actually carry a game with seeker after 25-30 min?

                                                                                    bum farto

                                                                                      BS is a pick off hero not a team fighter as much as other carries are, so late game when people start grouping closer he falls off.

                                                                                      Mokujin

                                                                                        I think shadow blade is decent

                                                                                        Dire Wolf

                                                                                          Eh, I think it's more cus people get bkbs and can just eat his silence and blade mail, rather than have to run out of it and stop fighting. His silence is pretty strong in a team fight, deals good dmg to a group (with bloodrage on and being pure it's equivalent to a 420 dmg nuke) and if they want to avoid they have to run out so that interrupts their plans. Once your carries get bkb though you can just burst him down and he's not much of a threat. It's the freakin blade mails that keep this guy living early.

                                                                                          Quick maffs

                                                                                            yeh the hero sucks ass after 40 min, he melts. I think blademail its always the first item, Skadi probably sucks but AC seems to be a good pick up.

                                                                                            After 40 min this hero melts to strong right clickers, they will have bkb so your blademail wont do shit, even if you have bkb and AC you are going to melt and building shit like skadi or hearts doesnt seem to help too much.

                                                                                            Anyway my biggest mistake most of the time with this hero is not going bkb early, there are games i have to go bkb after blademail and i still doubt if i should buy it or not.

                                                                                            Look at me, Hector.

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                                                                                                Look at me, Hector.

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                                                                                                  Look at me, Hector.

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