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General Discussionwhat is doom now?

what is doom now? in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    Still offlaner? I've not played him since his infernal blade, only had him once on my team and we stompped.

    I don't know if you could even jungle him now, if you did would you still max devour and hellfire? Infernal blade does a ton of dmg for very little mana.

    Could you safe lane him now? If you went like value point in devour and hellfire, maxed blade, a 1/1/4/1 at 7 would be doing like 300 dmg to an offlaner any time they got close. Dual offlane might be the way to go, imagine him with witch dr's malediction amplifying all that blade dmg.

    Bigshow

      doom lich/veno aggro duo lane gg.

      nami

        I find people really give up on his early potential by maxing Devour first. With the change to it, you don't need to add it up to eat the creeps you wanna eat anymore.

        That said, safelane is a big no lol. He can jungle/offlane but I think duo offlane is where he shines.

        Venus, MBA

          Just offlane and devour a creep in the new side camp when the supports zone you out. Scorched earth still has a decent heal and can help escape, and Infernal Blade is really only used if your mid laner comes to gank.

          Androgynous

            max blade sounds kinda bad. even if u assume every hero has 1k hp by the time you're 7, it's 50 more magic damage per skill point and you're still not gonna use it multiple times from the cooldown decrease until you're 7, maybe 5, but regardless you'd get similar damage with a 1-3-1 build, and much more HP which is important when you're trading damage or diving towers.

            max blade would end up doing more damage but you'd probably end up trading kills in teamfights much more because you're missing out on 540 HP, and trading kills is not worth it if you're the highest farm priority on your team. killing 1 and not dying is preferable to killing 2 and dying.

            in a vaccuum, max blade would end up doing more damage to a single target, but in practice, it doesn't because you're unable to dive towers with the build, making kills that were easily possible with a 1-4-1 build no longer possible with a 1-1-4 build, plus scorched earth's damage is also aoe making it far better in those first 10-15 minutes of the game

            TheMaverick427

              The increase to his base attack time kinda killed his Carry potential so I think hes still best as an offlaner. The only reason to really max out infernal blade early is because of the reduced cooldown, but you don't have the mana to support that so Scorched earth is the way to go. Always get one point in infernal blade though since it can interrupt TPs and the damage is useful in ganks.

              I saw one pro game where they played Doom mid. He was up against a DK though and its not something that is consistent at all. I think they lost that game too.

              Oldman

                Generally u dont have any skill to break linkens, thats the biggest nerf. Infernal blade may be usefull early to mid, but becomes useless later on.

                Miku Plays

                  doom have a chance to be a safelane farmer just need some rework on infernal blade.

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                    dadmode

                      hatsune no scorched solo offlane never forget

                      Pale Mannie

                        Doom is doomed obvoiusly