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General Discussion7.06e is up

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Irithyll

    7.06e:
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    * Neutral small camps gold bounty increased by 10%
    * Veil of Discord: Recipe cost increased from 400 to 500
    * Bloodthorn: Critical Strike damage reduced from 1.45x to 1.4x
    * Heaven's Halberd: Disarm duration on ranged heroes reduced from 5.5 to 5
    * Alchemist: Base Agility increased from 11 to 16
    * Alchemist: Greevil's Greed Bounty Rune multiplier increased from 2x to 2.5x
    * Arc Warden: Turn rate improved from 0.4 to 0.6
    * Batrider: Flaming Lasso cooldown increased from 90/75/60 to 100/80/60
    * Brewmaster: Fire brewling health increased from 1200 to 1300
    * Brewmaster: Level 10 Talent changed from +30 Attack Speed to +30 Damage
    * Brewmaster: Level 25 Talent changed from +120 Damage to +140 Attack Speed
    * Broodmother: Level 20 Talent from +12 Spiders Attack Damage to +14
    * Bristleback: Base damage reduced by 4
    * Chen: Hand of God Heal increased from 225/325/425 to 225/350/475
    * Chen: Level 20 Talent increased from +90 Gold/Min to +120
    * Clockwerk: Battery Assault manacost increased from 75 to 100
    * Clockwerk: Base damage reduced by 3
    * Dark Seer: Surge cooldown increased from 12/11/10/9 to 13/12/11/10
    * Enchantress: Nature's Attendants manacost reduced from 125/140/155/170 to 125
    * Io: Spirits manacost increased from 120/130/140/150 to 150
    * Legion Commander: Press The Attack cast range reduced from 800 to 700
    * Leshrac: Level 15 Talent increased from +10% Magic Resistance to +15%
    * Leshrac: Pulse Nova damage increased from 100/130/160 to 100/140/180
    * Lifestealer: Strength gain reduced from 3.3 to 3.1
    * Lina: Dragon Slave damage reduced from 110/180/250/320 to 85/160/235/310
    * Lina: Level 25 Talent from +40/4% Fiery Soul to +35/3%
    * Luna: Level 10 Talent from +15 Movement Speed to +20
    * Luna: Level 20 Talent from +10% Magic Resistance to +15%
    * Lycan: Howl cooldown increased from 55/50/45/40 to 60/55/50/45
    * Monkey King: Boundless Strike cooldown reduced from 25 to 22
    * Monkey King: Wukong's Command Attack Interval improved from 1.6 to 1.4
    * Morphling: Base Attack Time improved from 1.55 to 1.5
    * Naga Siren: Base health regen increased from 0.5 to 1.5
    * Nightstalker: Base Intelligence reduced from 16 to 13
    * Nightstalker: Hunter In The Night cooldown increased from 26/22/18/14 to 30/26/22/18
    * Nyx Assassin: Movement Speed reduced from 305 to 300
    * Ogre Magi: Level 15 Talent increased from +8% Magic Resistance to +12%
    * Ogre Magi: Level 20 Talent increased from +250 Health to +350
    * Ogre Magi: Level 20 Talent increased from +25 Movement Speed to +30
    * Phantom Lancer: Agility gain increased from 2.6 to 2.8
    * Phoenix: Level 10 Talent from +175 Health to +200
    * Puck: Base Armor reduced by 1
    * Pugna: Level 25 Talent increased from +150 Nether Blast Damage to +200
    * Queen of Pain: Base Damage reduced by 4
    * Queen of Pain: Level 25 Spell Lifesteal reduced from 70% to 60%
    * Razor: Agility gain reduced from 2.0 to 1.8
    * Sand King: Caustic Finale timer damage from 45/65/85/110 to 20/50/80/110
    * Shadow Demon: Base Strength increased from 19 to 21
    * Shadow Demon: Demonic Purge cooldown reduced from 50 to 40
    * Sniper: Agility gain increased from 2.5 to 2.7
    * Spectre: Base Strength increased from 19 to 20
    * Spectre: Level 15 Talent from +20 Movement Speed to +25
    * Sven: Warcry cooldown increased from 32/26/20/14 to 34/28/22/16
    * Tiny: Toss can now throw units to Spell Immune enemies
    * Venomancer: Strength gain reduced from 2.15 to 1.9
    * Visage: Grave Chill mana cost reduced from 100 to 90
    * Windranger: Windrun manacost reduced from 75 to 60
    * Winter Wyvern: Cold Embrace base health regen increased from 20 to 25
    * Winter Wyvern: Arctic Burn slow increased from 19/26/33/40% to 22/28/34/40%

    not arin

      whys icefrog buffing visage for ufcks sake

      Cheap Laugh Guy

        Can I know since when Morph has his Morph Agi and Morph Str linked together and has a bar indicating base Agi and Strength proportion?
        It's super cool stuff. No other has that.

        Irithyll

          Razor agility gain now 1.8 bois
          Bristle base damage nerf just gimps his early game a bit, late he's still an ass.

          not arin

            arc is going to be good again im calling it

            not arin

              Can I know since when Morph has his Morph Agi and Morph Str linked together and has a bar indicating base Agi and Strength proportion?
              It's super cool stuff. No other has that.

              since 7.00
              it looked like shit at first but got fixed eventually

              severe


                * Visage: Grave Chill mana cost reduced from 100 to 90

                underpowered hero getting his well-deserved buffs, can't wait for IF to buff meepo as well

                not arin

                  underpowered
                  ???????????

                  severe

                    sarcasm as highlighted by the 57.75% winrate image and meepo remark
                    maybe wasn't obvious enough cuz i'm bad at english sorry

                    not arin

                      or i guess im just mad because mid visage was my secret card to win games
                      (while i have <50% anyway xd)

                      not arin

                        nah ure fine im just a moron
                        i guess i'd get it if i read that second half of the sentence too

                        ねずみ

                          dragon slave nerf 4 wat

                          Potato Marshal

                            Dragon slave level 1 confirmed to be the new worst nuke in the game.

                            edgy names + anime pfp 1only

                              Rip lina laning stage i guess. Nice lv 1 damage btw haHAA

                              ねずみ

                                unnecessary nerf i say

                                not arin

                                  not really, being able to easily bring down people to 30% hp with Q+rightclicks was kinda strong

                                  ねずみ

                                    but its fun to right click enemy from 1000000 range + Q

                                    Cheap Laugh Guy

                                      @arin thanks!

                                      about lina, It's quite annoying in mid, good harass and last hit, she has to be nerfed

                                      evy

                                        Its also fun to give your back to the enemy team and pretend you're playing osu but with QW keys instead

                                        ねずみ

                                          lo l

                                          𐂃

                                            Time to play Tiny!

                                            edgy names + anime pfp 1only

                                              I would say puck and sf will be more popular but who knows

                                              casual gamer

                                                visage is fucking obnoxious already why cant valve accept that some heroes will be bad for people who are awful

                                                MARLAN

                                                  if i end up playing this patch, im gonna finally get to 800gpm average on andymagus :3

                                                  evy

                                                    Antimage is alright previous patch and I'm sure it's abit better now <3

                                                    basement :)

                                                      An overall good patch for me as someone who mains WR, Visage, and possibly Sniper. Lina is useless in pubs now. Her fire wave allowed her to dominate lane and have a massive early to middle presence. Typically, pubs throw with the Lina late game. With that wave nerf, the throws come much sooner. My preferred role is middle, and I never pick Lina, so the nerf is much appreciated. Also, why does Dark Seer keep getting nerfed?

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                                                      not arin

                                                        am i a complete moron or why is everyone but me winning with visage

                                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                          Confession time: I've been playing this game for about 4 years... and i still have no idea what visage's abilities do

                                                          And no plan to read it up any time soon

                                                          Irithyll

                                                            You should try it cookie, might suit your playstyle and a new hero to spam lol

                                                            not arin

                                                              it goes something like this

                                                              Jacked

                                                                I'm not liking this. I see a lot of buffs to cancerous heroes

                                                                Scarifar

                                                                  It's not an update to Dota without a Dark Seer nerf. That hasn't changed.

                                                                  quity

                                                                    @cookie
                                                                    viasge:

                                                                    q - makes enemy not kill u
                                                                    w - kills enemy
                                                                    e - makes enemy kill u less
                                                                    r - birds

                                                                    how to play: q then right klick. use w like axe ult.

                                                                    disclaimer: i don't think i've played more than 5 games with visage

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                                                                    disgusting weebs

                                                                      * Lina: Dragon Slave damage reduced from 110/180/250/320 to 85/160/235/310

                                                                      well fuck

                                                                      Papa_WhiteLegs

                                                                        That moment when you spammed Lina for her early to mid game presence...

                                                                        R.I.P.

                                                                        Papa_WhiteLegs

                                                                          Does anyone else realize that Outworld Devourer still has at level 10 the useless +10 movement speed?

                                                                          cartel

                                                                            This patch is k rated

                                                                            dfdls

                                                                              Nightstalker nerf, batrider nerf, dark seer nerf....whats new, oh wait no treant nerf?

                                                                              Photo-Fenton

                                                                                Basically, they are nerfing current popular roamer eh? NS, darkseer, clock, all nerfed.

                                                                                Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                                                  They're nerfing all the popular meta heroes just to make things balance for ti7

                                                                                  cartel

                                                                                    They are nerfing the entire meta and buffing brew/sd/lesh till they are playable again

                                                                                    Pale Mannie

                                                                                      no cm MS nerf fuck this patch

                                                                                      Klonu

                                                                                        ALCHEMIST is back boys?

                                                                                        DSP

                                                                                          Tiny: Toss can now throw units to Spell Immune enemies

                                                                                          Time to play Tiny again !

                                                                                          Said no one ever.

                                                                                          + Lina's nerf was needed, too much damage early.

                                                                                          Klonu

                                                                                            Well within the alchemist buff I see also another brood buff, maybe its time to learn this hero for real?

                                                                                            basement :)

                                                                                              That moment when Alchemist has the lowest win rate in 5k+, an abysmal 39%.

                                                                                              Lahai Roi

                                                                                                Nerf Lina and Qop
                                                                                                What now friends

                                                                                                ImagineDodong

                                                                                                  Dafuq why nerf QoP? tho I don't really play mid but why?

                                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                                    Cuz in every game.

                                                                                                    Yung Beethoven

                                                                                                      @Klonu alchemist will probably still be garbage.

                                                                                                      Story Time

                                                                                                        garbage remains garbage and ops heros remain op, so we can say that it is classical patch (as all before). Funny that IO is nerfed, and no one bats an eye