Body shaming should stop
200 pounds, 300 pounds, 400 pounds, 500 pound fatasses. It never stops. People should stop comparing people who are physically and mentally healthy, who see problems in themselves and try to improve to people that are ok with being a useless brick in the wall lifetime cashier wasting all of their money on stupid shit and hating knowledge. It's ok to be a piece of garbage, leave garbage people alone!!
Stop putting healthy people on a pedestal, just because they work to improve themselves and the environment around them doesn't mean that garbage people deserve to be considered unloveable... we live in an egalitarian society, EVERYONE deserves respect.
It should but then again you’re on the forum of a dota stats website. Inevitably people who are better at the game will be in these places as they are more likely to live and breathe dota. That’s why it feels like everyone is better here.
Most people are pretty helpful though and aside from toxic comments like above and the usual “git gud” stupidity, people generally give good advise.
People who get to top <1% of players in a game they invest thousands of hours in just wanna feel special ;)
Also Archon 1 is roughly the 50% mark right now so if you’re better than that you’re still better than half the people playing ranked no matter what people on the internet say. (Just google dota 2 mmr distribution)
No no, you MUST treat him nice and with respect. He matters, we all matter. The only people that Big Brother allows us to say don't matter are those at the extreme end of the bell curve, such as rapists.
If your MMR is shit and you're around someone who's better, you're annoying to them just like someone else's little kid who won't shut the fuck up. Deal with it or get rid of human nature.
It's in our _HUMAN NATURE_ to hold hatred towards those who are idiots. In ancestral times, those who were too stupid to help the pack survive were cast the fuck out because they can't hold their own. That's just logic. You must put in the work to be an individual worth respecting, or else for all we care as humans, you can go die. No way around that, except to escape our nature. This is why we need to replace human nature through unification of our universe since we are all one set of atoms divided causing us to all subconsciously want to be Godly, while instead, we are just God-like.
Idiots are a fucking virus. They infect you with their stupidity. They subconsciously or even consciously manipulate you into thinking like them. They infect you with their negative patterns by exposing you to theirs. They CHOOSE to behave in the way that they do. The fact that we as humans are intelligent enough to be logical is a very lovely thing. No one likes a dumbass who anchors them down because of THEIR problems, only a fool will entertain, as Kendrick says.
From 21 savage's song "Real Ni**a":
Broke ni**a with your brother's clothes, 21
Broke ni**a fuckin' your brother's hoes, 21
Get your own ni**a, get your own, 21
21 Savage is able to express through his rap music what we all know to be a logical TRUTH deep down. He puts no filters. No one respects an idiot.
I see that my topic back fired. No worries. I mean like me and my friends are playing in a 2k bracket & you come and use your Smurf knowing you'll end up with scrubs like us. Yet when we lose you blame it on us for being bad? Like if you want good players go play at your bracket?
We need to go back to the good old days where we shamed people for their race. Who's with me?
Well, let's be real here; you're acting like a little bitch. No filters, but hear me out here. When I was 2k, I focused only on myself and being consistent with my positivity and improvement because I knew that eventually, I'll get to where I'm going because I knew I wasn't a special little snowflake that the universe is against, I never cared or thought about smurfs. I climbed out of 2k within months and 3k to 4k even faster.
You fail to recognize that smurfs are a factor of dota's gameplay system, therefore it is equal over time for everybody. Smurfs are nothing to complain about. Regardless, I don't smurf, so don't paint me as one.
All smurfs do is play the game right, and expose you to your weaknesses. It's not fun, but everyone experiences them. In every MMR bracket actually.
Smurfs call you bad because they know most people who are low MMR are extremely ignorant, garbage ass people who are unable to perceive reality correctly. It's not just that they're bad at the game, but they also have a mind with poor structure overall.
Smurfing shouldn't be a thing, but it is, so oh well. It's fun for smurfs to decimate noobs because it allows them to showcase their superiority to people who think they are above what they are. It's a good way for them to see where they stand. When you're at your own skill level everyone appears "normal," which is why smurfing is fun for the smurf. They are finally able to "Realize" what they are.
Has it ever occurred to some of you that I might not actually want to climb or improve? I just wanted fun silly games with my friends. Not get insulted just because we're casual
That's fine. It doesn't mean that people will force themselves to love you for who you choose to be. Love is conditional. 🙌
Yeah, but from hours of playing, it stands to reason that you DO advance in skill, and naturally climb MMR.
The only crazy exception I’ve seen was the original HanSolo, but that guy was delusional beyond hope. 2K games on undying,only 50% winrate, herald 4.
In theory I agree, if low 2k is the avg MMR then anything above it is technically good.
In practice I call the garbage apes in my games "3k baboons", despite dropping from 4k to 2k, and now being 3k, myself. 200 EQ
"It's in our _HUMAN NATURE_ to hold hatred towards those who are idiots. In ancestral times, those who were too stupid to help the pack survive were cast the fuck out because they can't hold their own...You must put in the work to be an individual worth respecting, or else for all we care as humans, you can go die. No way around that, except to escape our nature."
It's human nature to despise freeloaders of all types, because we are social predators, like wolves and lions. The problem isn't even whether or not that society generates a surplus, the problem is that society cannot function without enforced rules (that is punishments, either social or legal) against freeloading or soon, no one does any work at all beyond what is personally needed to survive and society as a whole collapses. This is why "idiocy" as you termed it, is infectious.
The problem with your argument, though, is that freeloading isn't just idiocy. Historically, it meant every form of permanent disability that the current technology/understanding of reality could not fix, physical or mental. To single out only idiots and not others is a product of modern times, where most of the other things that would have crippled a Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherer (like defective vision or poor immune system or broken bones or infertility) can be treated by modern medicine, seems rather arbitrary. Modern society operates on the division of labor (and increasingly, the devaluation of human labor before the power of machines and AI), and thus, it is no longer required (nor possible) for a person to be competent at (or even aware of) everything. Intelligence is necessarily devalued as an important individual or group survival trait because the leverage a smarter person has over an idiot is necessarily reduced. Is that a bad thing? That's a personal choice.
Personally, my respect goes to anyone who does something useful for society, regardless of the things I do better than him (because I'm sure simply by his expertise and time invested, he does many things better than me also). If I don't understanding someone else's role, I should reserve judgement until I learn more, but I will not deny that modern society has created far more freeloaders (due to the devaluation of human labor) than any previous society, people with no role or purpose.
Has it ever occurred to some of you that I might not actually want to climb or improve? I just wanted fun silly games with my friends. Not get insulted just because we're casual
Oh really? Why did you made a second account then?
Also if you play with your dogshit friends in your shitty bracket with other dogshit people, who is calling you shit? Seems like a paradox to me tbh?
Eventually if you play dota for a few years, like doing anything over a long period of time you will improve. Some people wont improve no matter how much games they played but people on the internet have rude name for them and psychologists a scientific one!
You know people here have no life right? That's why they try to mmr shame you.
They have nothing better.
Poorly for them, the God-King rises against that.
Those you dare to fight the God-King, have not bee granted a merciful death
Bow to your God-King opezdal
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Sixe, I don't care what you think but I hate people who aren't interested in going on an upward curve in life. They just fucking exist.
For example, there's a ~50 year old female at work who is a cashier, I can't help but hate her for the choices that she makes. She just exists as an idiot. She fucks a 20YO guy at work, she can't get any dick elsewhere. She's divorced. She hates knowledge, it doesn't seem like she will ever change her ways. Holy fuck, she's such a piece of garbage in my opinion. She tried to get with me already, how fucking ridiculous that she thinks I am ever able to love her.
I mean, I guess we need cashiers... but that's not what it is to be human. This bitch complains about her job, always says things like "Yay!! Only one more hour till I'm off!!" yet she doesn't actually do anything to stop having a shitty job. It's so fucking negative to be around someone who is so stupid and fake IMO, she thinks that "High school is the best time of your life," and makes statements such as "I don't think about the extra" when someone talks about something that isn't basic as hell. Like Wiz Khalifa says in his song, you should shoot for the stars.
Don't get me wrong, there's some people who work jobs like this and are smart people and try to be the best person they can be, even though they did fuck up their lives to be working a minimum wage job at old age--let's be honest. However, I will never be ok with someone who thinks it's ok to spread patterns of stupidity. I am very particular with the kinds of people I place in my life, and it's unfortunate that I have to work with that bitch. She always says basic shit. And of course, she has an overpriced Nike shoe that looks really basic but probably cost her $60 even though she works as a cashier and has 0 money saved for retirement. Stupid bitch, her kids will have to pick up her slack financially.
^no shit, everyone who plays ranked games cares about MMR, otherwise he would play normal games.
MMR is only thing that differs people and teaches us how to tell q difference between trash and good.
Capt. Saver, you can admit there's difference bewteen your job ambition/goals and your ambition on a game that some people play casually.
I know it's a good attitude to aim improvment anytime in any aspect of your life but for some people, dota is just for fun.
Capt. Saver, you can admit there's difference bewteen your job ambition/goals and your ambition on a game that some people play casually.I know it's a good attitude to aim improvment anytime in any aspect of your life but for some people, dota is just for fun.
That's fine. It doesn't mean that people will force themselves to love you for who you choose to be. Love is conditional. 🙌
Change your self, change the world around you. It's almost impossible to respect people who are stupid, I'm all for peace and love but if you want to be like a little kid who doesn't want to play the game right then I don't see how anyone should respect you, to begin with.
For most people that grind mmr, respect that you get by being 5k+ and disrespect you can deliver to scrubs is what keeps them playing this game. This is how it works.
Btw no one will flame you if you are 1k-4k unless you are delusional about your skill level. "Team hold me back" etc.
Im just a dude playing turbo & having fun with his friends casually while trying to shed some light on on what the community has become. I was expecting a more decent community from the forums but I guess it's every man for himself here too. This post wasn't even about me or my MMR or how badly I played I made it very clear in the opening post.
Yet people here are quick to jump at how low your MMR & how badly you play even though I already admitted it myself that they forget that it doesn't take someone with a huge MMR to tell you how the community can be changed. I'm not even talking about the game, I'm talking about the people.
I don't freaking care about winning. I care about my friends quitting because I actually enjoy playing with them even if we lose. But seeing insults thrown at them? Just because of a silly game? Grow up.
Honestly I'm done feeding here.
I see you're the kind who would never step up when you see a wrong doing. Yes, I believe I can change not all but at least some people. Because if not me, then who?
Humans are heavily competitive by nature. That’s not going to change. You can only change yourself. By being statistically better than another person, in anything, we feel better about ourselves. But ultimately it is based on entirely subjective perspective. Imagine if NoOne or Miracle was on Dotabuff and was like “6k lol dogshit players.” But the highest you will see in a Dotabuff forum is what, low 6K high 5K. In this environment they feel superior, but that’s subjective because in reality there is still plenty of other people who could get on here and say “lol 6K” worry about yourself and not others.
Tails, Dota 2 has a large amount of toxic players and you wont change that. Hopefully there's many other games with a better community
Gamers are already the most opressed group of all, yet inside is asubgroup more opressed than ever. 2k mmr players, RISE UP!
If a 7k Smurf calls you shit -- he has every right in the world.
Dunning-krugers. You failed to realize by watching him play that he's waaaay better than yourself ; it's your failure to not simply see it and admit it as fact.
From there, you watch your own replays and start to realize how bad you actually are -- now, you're starting to repeat good patterns and get better ! Wow you became better at the game !
The Smurf is actually doing you a favor, if only you'd transform that right to be offended into actual action to better yourself so people don't make that comment in the first place...
The level of the Dota2 community as a whole has increased leaps and bounds over the course of the years. I'd say current crusaders can stomp people that calibrated around 3500 5 years ago. If you feel bad it's because you've noticed it, but haven't improved yourself.
Stop bitching and take the advice : you're shit.
Now use that to improve.
Jumping on to the MMR heirachy again. Assume this was a 7k player posting this because he's sick of the community. How bout that? Why do my stats matter if my subject is about the community? I could just be using 2k as an example. Not everyone wants to flaunt their MMRs.
@KingeY no he has not.
Why? Cuz I ain't shit.
I'm bad in dota, that's right.
But I didn't come out of someone's ass.
Dummy.
Next time, use ya brains.
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Same goes for yourself, over here posting trolling comments but is still a crusader
Troll+dota noob, is this what you call a scrub?
Jumping on to the MMR heirachy again. Assume this was a 7k player posting this because he's sick of the community. How bout that? Why do my stats matter if my subject is about the community? I could just be using 2k as an example. Not everyone wants to flaunt their MMRs.
theres a saying in russia that goes, "if grandma had a dick she would be a grandpa"
@a wild Pikachu appeared
O boy, a immortal, maybe a challenge? I think not.
Are you toxic? Or are you blind? Have you seen the forum your posting this on? Do you really think I couldn't have been better, stand alone improving? Of course not, I have seen donuts with a better iQ and response to this.
You're blowing off the high tower about @dota.
Im sorry to dissapointed you, but not everyone plays Dota because they want to make it a part of their life.
Now I know low iQ brainless like you don't understand, but I'll keep it simple.
People that play for fun, don't want to be called bad by people with higher mmr. Whether that's a brainlet, like you. Or a forum troll.
Youre good in Dota, good for you.
But ik the regard your saying this, it looks like your a homosexual.
Cuz you really want to shove it up people's ass.
What do you have next to high mmr? Hmm. Maybe a live? Sitting in your basement, sometimes playing 11 matches a day? Or are you functioning in society, like every other. But just stay out of the forums for now.
You might be good, but if it's about something other then mmr for 1 second you lose the high ground.
So yes, master obi has thaught me well.
I know what he could've thaught you,
Stop being a pepega. If you would've been low in mmr, you would be crying. But because your not, you feel superior. That weakened you.
Because in difference to me, you ain't superior.
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You got the Dota skills, I admit.
But your forum skills are utter garbage.
Make the story about anything different, and your gone.
Also @awildpikachuappeared.
To some, you might still be bad.
Maybe people like miracle still think your terrible.
They don't have to, but your kinda stooopiiid.
Why? Cuz what's 'bad' and what's 'good' is subjective. It's different for everyone. Not that you understand. You're better than me in dota, but you suck in discussions (in my opinion), cuz you try to make it too personal. Instead of standing on the point you want to talk about. You start instantly trying to bring someone down.
This shows me that despite your high mmr, you still are a little bit insecure. You don't Know whether people like you, so your not willing to take the risk.
'Bad' is subjective you moron.
Was Hitler bad? To you he probably was. Would himmler agree with you? No, because he supported Hitler. He wouldve probably seen him as a great guy. Whether you like, or dislike someone depends on your own view. It's never a fact. I once had a guy saying that I play great grimstroke. He thinks my grim is great. Do you? Ofcourse not! Your a higher mmr player, that plays with 1000 times more skilled players! You probably think my grims garbage. But that doesn't mean it's a fact buddy. Someone else can still have the opinion that my grims great?
It's it? Ofcourse!
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Are you a smart debater? Of course!
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Am I what you call a scrub? Maybe. But you did give me time for a finisher move of epic proportion:
Is this what you call a scrub?
No u.
Gottem
Now bow to your superior god-king
Opezdal ain't scared of you.
OP, most of the dogs on this forum who mmr shame have literally nothing else going on in their life, so try not to worry about it, cuz at the end of the day even a blue star dotabuff member is trash compared to the pro players.. which means everyone is trash in this forum. So just laugh it off and feel sad for the guys who need to put you down based on your mmr
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2k, 3k, 4k, 5k scrub. It never stops. People should stop comparing & just play the damn game. Be it 1k or 5k you can enjoy the game. By putting 5k & 6k at a pedestal you get account buyers & toxic players trying to reach that pinnacle. So next time think before you type because it impacts the game as a whole.