To be fair, I think mmr is cool and all. And it nice to have a lot of it.
But honestly I don't care about it too much, I rather want to have fun then a +25.
All the arguments about human nature is kinda messy because everyone's competitive nature is channeled differently.
Some compete by wanting to see others compete so they will have the best challenge. They want to be king and stay on the throne as long as possible.
Others simply conquer the best like Bobby Fischer or Paul Morphy and then quit because there is no more challenge left. The climb matters more to them than the maintenance and consolidation of that power.
Others tend to hold onto their trump cards. Meaning, they aren't competitive immediately, but if you try getting competitive with them, they will destroy you. This is more popular in China with the tradition of the "martial arts master".
Others have enough self-recognition to know that they can't be good at everything and don't expect to be competitive at the things they don't have natural talent in. I believe the OP and his friends are more of this type, and tbh, you just need to accept this about y'all and ignore the haters because they fundamentally misjudge your intentions.
Others simply aren't able to be competitive in the current system. Thus, it is in their interests to change the system into something they can compete better in. Make no mistake, a revolutionary is as competitive and cutthroat an endeavor as a general or a entrepreneur or sportsman. Most don't make it for the same high-stakes reasons elsewhere.
OP you can't convince nerd kids playing dota 4 hours+ a day that they should not flame people who play dota for fun (with lower mmr than theirs).
You have to understand that those people sacrifice their whole lives for a number/badge so they can show it off later. While in reality it gives them nothing, and in generall they end up with a shitty life and ugly wife or none at all.
Do you guys even know how much effort and sacrifice you have to make to even reach 5k ? Not to mention higher brackets. And they will flame you for being noob because it makes them feel better. Cos without it they would feel like they wasted their entire young life for nothing. At least they can show you where you belong. Let them do that, its all they can get.
^^ Im 4,9k and i didnt do THAT much effort as to ruin my life for dota . Its all subjective . Im in the top 5 students in the college . Barely play 2-3 games per day .
I hate MMR shaming too. Higher mmr/medal players here thinks that the opinion of lower mmr dude is invalid against them.
Archon V:
I don't build fury on my jugg. I rush maelstrom.
Divine V:
lol an archon V giving his opinion to a divine player. I can win a game in your bracket with a desolator CM. Get lost.
By that logic, Phil Jackson should not coach Michael Jordan coz MJ > Jackson in terms of basketball skill.
Some players even on lower bracket has some strats. A friend of mine who is a crusader actually teach me that you can tp or cast MoM during omnislash or tp then use SB. Why he knows it? Coz he watch a lot of dota 2 tournaments. They can learn those high mmr player tricks, theyre only having prob with it. (E.g. tread switching, quickcast, manta dodge)
^ if it's about tricks or something is fine,everyone can get it on single second(like go to enemy radiant tower1 mid forest to see ward or not etc)
itembuilds or how to play the hero isn't like that,are you seriously gonna reject something that has been almost set on stone? if a 7k player seriously tells me how to play this game i for sure gonna treat it with respect not saying "haha my opinion is GOOD and you can't say anything about it"
i think mmr doesnt matter
dota is a very complex game, so mmr doesnt really measure excatly how good you are at the game
i know legend 3s who destory immortals 1v1 mid because they just are really good at that but suck at all other aspects of the game
it stops when low ranked players stop calling players above them account buyers or saying dumb things like mmr doesn't matter or trying to teach dota theory to upper ranked players without any proper justifications
i think completely getting rid of discrimination is impossible, you'll always get high ranked players getting pissed off low mmr potatoheads are ruining their games. you'll always get toxic low mmr trash going divine lul or immortal ez or how much ur acc
thats fine by me cuz the internet is always toxic. i get pissed off when i have low ranked players genuinely try to teach me the game and when i respond politely, they think they know better and are often condscending especially when they have a 'better' kda in game.
listen here u lil shits, you aren't guys like purge or other analysts that spend thousands of hours researching the game nor do you have dozens of 7k/8k/9k players to check your findings with
if i tell you that you're playing like a piece of shit, chances are, you're playing like a piece of shit
edit: there are always instances where a higher ranked player can be wrong. however the point where you can discern this is usually when you're amongst that said rank where you actually possess VIABLE GAME KNOWLEDGE (not about how your legend cheese picks work against your legend opponents). a rank 1000 telling a rank 200 he did something wrong is fine. a legend telling an immortal he doesn't know the game is stupid.
True, its funny how lower mmrs think they are much better than those higher rank by them and says "MMR is nothing" and proceeds to play like shit. They even claim that they are better than those in higher mmr brackets.
PS: you get you current mmr cause you deserve it, stop saying you dont belong to this skill or any bullshit
@awildpikachuappeared
Sir are you scared? Are you?
You look like it. Cuz you too scared to react to my post.
Also you don't see the logic.
If your team wins all matched for you, you'll rank up in no time. So if you lose your team failed in winning it for you. their fault.
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Also you wanna be @salty. But when it comes to anything else you're like
@itsnotfairtoshame.
Shaming is for micropenises. God what a good life I have on this post deleting brainlets.
Did you get bullied? Is that why you try to be superior here?
Were you too weak to face up to your fears, so once you finally found out something your good in, you directly tried to force it down people's throat?
Are you that sad? You look like you that sad. Man up, betamale.
its okay, i dont even bother reading comments reading by trashes like that, wonder what are they doing behind their screen and posting rubbish, must be an jobless poor shit
@ETdAWESOME
How much do you wanna bet that I won't get muted this month?
Watch me getting muted rn.
@awildretardappeared.
You don't bother, cuz you know I'm right.
;)
Do I have a job. No.
Do a job you like, and you do 't have to work a day in your life.
Does this take time? Hell nah.
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Does memeing kids like you around on the internet make life good? Yes.
Because you as triggered as a baby.
Must be a jobless poor shit. Sry m8, I didn't know that I hurt your soul a little bit too Hard. Also I thaught you would be a little more mature......
You could've played the childish card here, but then yet again you by far not that smart.
I'll play it myself then. I'm childish.
And good. Real good in what I do.
You wonder what I do when I'm not behind the computer? I cry in bed.
Good Now? Or do you want an actual response
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Do I need to be funny? No I need to be a cuck.
@Gabba Gabba
Sad thread, for people with a sad life. That's why you're here.
@saltstick
I have a theory about Dota and rabies being connected somehow, i still can't find out how tho.
I gotta stand with Tails. There is one thing that keeps amazing me in 2019. Since when disrespecting someone is ok when you are better than them at something?? That means if someoen is better than you at something, you will also let yourself get bullied like a bitch? That "Sixe" guy is right about one thing : human nature doesnt respect what could slow the pack, for survival reasons. But guess what, we dont live in a pack anymore and you wont play long enough with these people either to form a pack (duhhhh). Disrespecting people in 2019 is punishable BY THE LAW, as we, humans, instaured.
If someone wants to trashtalk to others because its in his "nature" congratulations your nature brought you the charge of cyberbullying. Punishments by the law will work as a charm, to "adjust" your "primitive nature".
At that point, I wonder if the reason people are toxic is because of the lack of snitching. Maybe people should sue each other in videogames for the community to become better? I dont know. But in no circumstances you can disrespect someone becasue of skills. Not in the society we built. Unless you take advantage of doing it somewhere you are less likely to be caught.
i think completely getting rid of discrimination is impossible, you'll always get high ranked players getting pissed off low mmr potatoheads are ruining their games. you'll always get toxic low mmr trash going divine lul or immortal ez or how much ur acc
You bring up a great point. Low MMR players like to say things like that, and then smurfs get to decimate them for fun later on to show them that the low mmr players were simply abusing their communicational power. :)
the chances of a university kid taking his masters pointing out a mistake his professor made in the equation is far more likely and believable than the chance of a preschooler telling his teacher that he's wrong.
the higher up you go, the closer in knowledge you get. its only still considered a large difference if you account for relativity.
Never get dota 2 players serious(internet in general) , let them flame you for your mmr , I don't get a mentally challenged human serious.tough guys on the internet are mentally challenged pu*sy guys IRL.
I actually have to agree with some of the things people say. I think its rather stupid when a legend player will go and say «ez divine» after getting a kill on me etc. Yet if i go «ez legend» ill get flamed and trashtalked upon cause i am higher skill than them. Where is the equality?
@drake
There is none.
If a worse player says you suck, he's trashtalking.
If a better player says you suck, he's probably mmr shaming.
If drake says slavery is a choice, he might have no idea how slavery works
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To be fair, I think mmr is cool and all. And it nice to have a lot of it.
But honestly I don't care about it too much, I rather want to have fun then a +25.
All the arguments about human nature is kinda messy because everyone's competitive nature is channeled differently.
Some compete by wanting to see others compete so they will have the best challenge. They want to be king and stay on the throne as long as possible.
Others simply conquer the best like Bobby Fischer or Paul Morphy and then quit because there is no more challenge left. The climb matters more to them than the maintenance and consolidation of that power.
Others tend to hold onto their trump cards. Meaning, they aren't competitive immediately, but if you try getting competitive with them, they will destroy you. This is more popular in China with the tradition of the "martial arts master".
Others have enough self-recognition to know that they can't be good at everything and don't expect to be competitive at the things they don't have natural talent in. I believe the OP and his friends are more of this type, and tbh, you just need to accept this about y'all and ignore the haters because they fundamentally misjudge your intentions.
Others simply aren't able to be competitive in the current system. Thus, it is in their interests to change the system into something they can compete better in. Make no mistake, a revolutionary is as competitive and cutthroat an endeavor as a general or a entrepreneur or sportsman. Most don't make it for the same high-stakes reasons elsewhere.
To be fair to my arguments, most people are exactly as I claimed.
Anyways, I don't see why he's being such a little soyboy. We all have to deal with this shit, oh well. I don't even know what to say anymore.
People that scream they're better because of their mmr, lack a life.
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opezdal is God's spawn
God has told me this directly.
First of all dota is a game for kids and 20+.
OP you can't convince nerd kids playing dota 4 hours+ a day that they should not flame people who play dota for fun (with lower mmr than theirs).
You have to understand that those people sacrifice their whole lives for a number/badge so they can show it off later. While in reality it gives them nothing, and in generall they end up with a shitty life and ugly wife or none at all.
Do you guys even know how much effort and sacrifice you have to make to even reach 5k ? Not to mention higher brackets. And they will flame you for being noob because it makes them feel better. Cos without it they would feel like they wasted their entire young life for nothing. At least they can show you where you belong. Let them do that, its all they can get.
^^ Im 4,9k and i didnt do THAT much effort as to ruin my life for dota . Its all subjective . Im in the top 5 students in the college . Barely play 2-3 games per day .
welcom to dota, you scuk. i found it from my dotabuff achievement
I hate MMR shaming too. Higher mmr/medal players here thinks that the opinion of lower mmr dude is invalid against them.
Archon V:
I don't build fury on my jugg. I rush maelstrom.
Divine V:
lol an archon V giving his opinion to a divine player. I can win a game in your bracket with a desolator CM. Get lost.
By that logic, Phil Jackson should not coach Michael Jordan coz MJ > Jackson in terms of basketball skill.
Some players even on lower bracket has some strats. A friend of mine who is a crusader actually teach me that you can tp or cast MoM during omnislash or tp then use SB. Why he knows it? Coz he watch a lot of dota 2 tournaments. They can learn those high mmr player tricks, theyre only having prob with it. (E.g. tread switching, quickcast, manta dodge)
^ if it's about tricks or something is fine,everyone can get it on single second(like go to enemy radiant tower1 mid forest to see ward or not etc)
itembuilds or how to play the hero isn't like that,are you seriously gonna reject something that has been almost set on stone? if a 7k player seriously tells me how to play this game i for sure gonna treat it with respect not saying "haha my opinion is GOOD and you can't say anything about it"
i think mmr doesnt matter
dota is a very complex game, so mmr doesnt really measure excatly how good you are at the game
i know legend 3s who destory immortals 1v1 mid because they just are really good at that but suck at all other aspects of the game
and dat is why mmr matter lol,win lane can't win game is real bad and high mmr give you win games,i was also like that too
oh
Dota isnt nearly as simple as basketball. Usually in dota low rated players have bad knowledge/ideas
Yeah but humiliating them is unnecessary right?
idk i wouldn't have climbed without cookie bullying me
so i think it helps even if a little
it stops when low ranked players stop calling players above them account buyers or saying dumb things like mmr doesn't matter or trying to teach dota theory to upper ranked players without any proper justifications
i think completely getting rid of discrimination is impossible, you'll always get high ranked players getting pissed off low mmr potatoheads are ruining their games. you'll always get toxic low mmr trash going divine lul or immortal ez or how much ur acc
thats fine by me cuz the internet is always toxic. i get pissed off when i have low ranked players genuinely try to teach me the game and when i respond politely, they think they know better and are often condscending especially when they have a 'better' kda in game.
listen here u lil shits, you aren't guys like purge or other analysts that spend thousands of hours researching the game nor do you have dozens of 7k/8k/9k players to check your findings with
if i tell you that you're playing like a piece of shit, chances are, you're playing like a piece of shit
edit: there are always instances where a higher ranked player can be wrong. however the point where you can discern this is usually when you're amongst that said rank where you actually possess VIABLE GAME KNOWLEDGE (not about how your legend cheese picks work against your legend opponents). a rank 1000 telling a rank 200 he did something wrong is fine. a legend telling an immortal he doesn't know the game is stupid.
No longer a 5k scrub yay me
True, its funny how lower mmrs think they are much better than those higher rank by them and says "MMR is nothing" and proceeds to play like shit. They even claim that they are better than those in higher mmr brackets.
PS: you get you current mmr cause you deserve it, stop saying you dont belong to this skill or any bullshit
@awildpikachuappeared
Sir are you scared? Are you?
You look like it. Cuz you too scared to react to my post.
Also you don't see the logic.
If your team wins all matched for you, you'll rank up in no time. So if you lose your team failed in winning it for you. their fault.
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Also you wanna be @salty. But when it comes to anything else you're like
@itsnotfairtoshame.
Shaming is for micropenises. God what a good life I have on this post deleting brainlets.
Did you get bullied? Is that why you try to be superior here?
Were you too weak to face up to your fears, so once you finally found out something your good in, you directly tried to force it down people's throat?
Are you that sad? You look like you that sad. Man up, betamale.
Not that I don’t find IronSights’ stuff funny, I do, but it’s a matter of time until you get a mute lmao
its okay, i dont even bother reading comments reading by trashes like that, wonder what are they doing behind their screen and posting rubbish, must be an jobless poor shit
Not really though, you overestimate the amount of time it takes to troll. They can still live “regular” lives
isnt rank 1000 and 200 like 1500 mmr difference
even that sounds a little dumb tbh
More like from 6.5 to 7.5
@ETdAWESOME
How much do you wanna bet that I won't get muted this month?
Watch me getting muted rn.
@awildretardappeared.
You don't bother, cuz you know I'm right.
;)
Do I have a job. No.
Do a job you like, and you do 't have to work a day in your life.
Does this take time? Hell nah.
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Does memeing kids like you around on the internet make life good? Yes.
Because you as triggered as a baby.
Must be a jobless poor shit. Sry m8, I didn't know that I hurt your soul a little bit too Hard. Also I thaught you would be a little more mature......
You could've played the childish card here, but then yet again you by far not that smart.
I'll play it myself then. I'm childish.
And good. Real good in what I do.
You wonder what I do when I'm not behind the computer? I cry in bed.
Good Now? Or do you want an actual response
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Do I need to be funny? No I need to be a cuck.
havig dota installed automatically makes u one though
This is a sad thread rofl
@Gabba Gabba
Sad thread, for people with a sad life. That's why you're here.
@saltstick
I have a theory about Dota and rabies being connected somehow, i still can't find out how tho.
fuckin nerds
I've only found out that when someone picks techies, 90% of the people react like rabid dogs.
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I gotta stand with Tails. There is one thing that keeps amazing me in 2019. Since when disrespecting someone is ok when you are better than them at something?? That means if someoen is better than you at something, you will also let yourself get bullied like a bitch? That "Sixe" guy is right about one thing : human nature doesnt respect what could slow the pack, for survival reasons. But guess what, we dont live in a pack anymore and you wont play long enough with these people either to form a pack (duhhhh). Disrespecting people in 2019 is punishable BY THE LAW, as we, humans, instaured.
If someone wants to trashtalk to others because its in his "nature" congratulations your nature brought you the charge of cyberbullying. Punishments by the law will work as a charm, to "adjust" your "primitive nature".
At that point, I wonder if the reason people are toxic is because of the lack of snitching. Maybe people should sue each other in videogames for the community to become better? I dont know. But in no circumstances you can disrespect someone becasue of skills. Not in the society we built. Unless you take advantage of doing it somewhere you are less likely to be caught.
@maximusdecimatus
They do it to boost their low self esteem.
I don't have low self esteem
I'm the God-King after all
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You bring up a great point. Low MMR players like to say things like that, and then smurfs get to decimate them for fun later on to show them that the low mmr players were simply abusing their communicational power. :)
"isnt rank 1000 and 200 like 1500 mmr difference
even that sounds a little dumb tbh"
but it isn't
the chances of a university kid taking his masters pointing out a mistake his professor made in the equation is far more likely and believable than the chance of a preschooler telling his teacher that he's wrong.
the higher up you go, the closer in knowledge you get. its only still considered a large difference if you account for relativity.
mmr shaming is very important
mmr shaming is dumb without context
a div 1 going lul ancients is stupid
a immortal losing his lane 1v1 and playing like shit then going "noob teammates why do i have to play with divines" is stupid
a legend player saying he can win immortals is stupid
HAHAHAHHAAHA
sqrt(0.001)K RISE UP!!!
Never get dota 2 players serious(internet in general) , let them flame you for your mmr , I don't get a mentally challenged human serious.tough guys on the internet are mentally challenged pu*sy guys IRL.
nice position ,TC
seems lul
I actually have to agree with some of the things people say. I think its rather stupid when a legend player will go and say «ez divine» after getting a kill on me etc. Yet if i go «ez legend» ill get flamed and trashtalked upon cause i am higher skill than them. Where is the equality?
@drake
There is none.
If a worse player says you suck, he's trashtalking.
If a better player says you suck, he's probably mmr shaming.
If drake says slavery is a choice, he might have no idea how slavery works
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@sirironsights how the fuck do u have time to write so much on fucking dotabuff forums?
Slq 2k lmfao. What to expect when team holds you back though
Whoops. I just mmr shames someone
@TAW | miC
Maybe I don't have much time. I'll let my bots take over sometimes.
#doods gotta relax too